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Irrefutable Proof of God and All his Attributes from Logic and Reason Alone
Anyone who refutes it gets $1000 (I'm not debating PSR)
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The Wahhabis are not Sunnis they're Khawarij dogs of the hellfire.
I don't like calling them dogs because a dog is loyal while a Wahhabi is not.
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ warned about them in many hadith
Important point Najdis shave their heads and took Muslims as slaves when they brutalized the people of Arabia
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This is a misconception.
Following the Young Turk Revolution the Turks betrayed their Muslim brothers and sisters and all the other members of the Ottoman Caliphate.
Passing laws discriminating against everyone that wasn't Turkic.
If you learn about the history of the Young Turks you'd know the "revolution" was run by Dönme planned out of Free Mason Lodges and Western embassies

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@MaxBlumenthal This the first I've heard of you but that was a masterclass in putting the perpetual Zionist apologist in his place
Following you now

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@MikeWingerii The world's largest terrorist organization is the Israeli Diaper Forces
The second largest is the US military

The reason for this ranking is the former controls the latter.
You're owned and controlled by the Zionist Nation of Epstein and AIPAC openly brags about it

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Listen you Nation of Epstein.
Your genocidal state is drawing it's last breaths.
The whole West hates you.
Without their infinite money funding your genocide the Palestinians alone will wipe the floor with the Israeli Diaper forces.
Your control of the media is waning
Muslims have begun waking up and there's over 2 billion of us

Just like the Israel of old was destroyed by God for worshipping the devil and spreading corruption in the land so too will this genocidal state.

It's hilarious you choose Cyprus of course Isntreal will always support genocide and ethnic cleansing

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How many Shekels did the New York Sewer Zionist pay you for saying this?

Just to be clear you're supporting the deliberate targeting of children right?
Also why are you Arbitrarily mentioning Hamas? Are you falsely starting the timer at Oct 7? Why not Oct 8? Why did Israel attack Palestine unprovoked on Oct 8?

If you can ignore over 100 years of ethnic cleansing surely I can ignore one day.

I wonder if you'd be singing the same tune if Muslims & Christians united and killed tens of millions of Zionists in retaliation for the hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians since you're defending killing hundreds of thousands of innocents for a thousand fighters.
Or is it all of a sudden wrong to kill innocent people if it happens to the people who pay you?

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"Gaza has the highest amount of child amputees per capital in the world. This does not happen without deliberately targeting children" Canadian Doctor witnessing the Genocide

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🇨🇦 | Canadian doctor:

“We saw everything with our own eyes, Israel is lying. Be brave and declare that this crime is a genocide!”

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@Antiochus191 Stop crying because the Turks beat Democracy back into you.
Next time don't try to genocide the population of an Island when their bigger brother can easily wipe the floor with you

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@JamesKowalski88 Very funny...
Did God lose anything in his sacrifice? Can God lose things?

The most hilarious thing about Christianity is the 2 days Jesus left are viewed as this enormous sacrifice but the 2,000 years he's been gone is what?

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@voiceofrabbis The best thing about the devil worshipping Zionists is:
"The God we don't believe in promised us this land that he took away from us as punishment for spreading corruption in the land. He has not returned this land to us... so we will spread corruption to seize it by force"

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Easy
The Quran corrects the corruptions of the previous scriptures

The Bible gets a lot wrong about the creation story.
Genesis 1 contradicts logic and reasoning
Genesis 2 contradicts Genesis 1
Genesis 3 claims God lied and Satan was truthful. It also states God was scared of Adam and Eve because apparently possessing knowledge and immortality can rival God.

The Bible due to the heretic Paul claims Satan is the God of this world and can rival God... In Islam God is unrivaled, Satan just whispers to influence us as a test
So the Bible is fundamentally wrong on the nature of Satan.

The Bible claims God commands genocide
The Bible claims a Jewish man was as strong as God and God had to cheat to defeat him in a wrestling match
The Bible claims King in Prophet Joseph's time was a Pharoah
The Bible claims God is petty and punishes mankind for all generations for a sin not committed by them. The huge sin? Eating a piece of fruit.
The Bible claims God is not all powerful and was unable to fulfill his promise to Prophet Solomon about wisdom
The Bible attributes heinous things to many prophets that Islam corrects

Alhamdullah for Islam for fixing the many many mistakes of the Bible.

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1) yes
2) exact word fallacy across language LOL
They affirmed Allahu Ahad (God is One... not the 3 persons word salad you profess).
Your exact argument destroys you when you claim progressive revelation... our theology is the same as all the earlier Prophets peace and blessings be upon them
3) you're demonstrating your profound ignorance. Different prophets have different Shariahs. Just like Prophet Jesus changed the Sabbath. What he didn't do however is abolish the old laws... Paul the heretic did that and you followed him.

Can you provide any evidence that Moses, Abraham, and others or their followers worshipped a Trinity prior to the immaculate conception?
Since you misinterpret the Old Testament bring me a single historical group that did so.

The prophets were objectively Mashlama which comes from the same Semitic root of submission.
But here's the real nail in your coffin... Prophet Noah was NOT a Jew nor a Christian as per your own scripture but he was objectively Muslim

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A Rapid-fire of terrible arguments with bad logic
1) what's the implication? If I know what you're thinking I'm God... it's so funny that Christians don't know what God is otherwise they would know Jesus isn't God
2) Jesus wasn't casting out by himself. So not sure of the argument here
3) someone being an excellent or the best example doesn't make them God
4) Are judges God now? LOL you need judges. Prophet Jesus wasn't a judge on earth... Prophet Muhammad was
5) we don't grant the corruption/blasphemy of Paul that God on earth is the devil... God is the God of everything nothing else is. God rules everything and everything is his dominion

6) Prophet Jesus wasn't a King period. Saying words don't make them so

Really if you understood what God was you wouldn't make such bad arguments
Everything about the theology of the Trinity is inconsistent especially the test.
I'll show you...

1) did your God need to reincarnate and kill himself to forgive sins?
Yes... not all powerful to forgive. Even humans can forgive without killing/suicide
No... the incarnation and crucifiction were unnecessary

Remember God is an infinite being that can erase the debt of 2 unrelated people eating a piece of fruit at the beginning of mankind. Such a silly debt to require such a high price. It being a multigenerational debt is just an affront to justice and mercy

2) Did your God need to experience suffering to KNOW what it feels like?
Yes... not all knowing
No... the incarnation and crucifiction were unnecessary

3) do Jesus and the Father have only one Will?
Yes...
A) the father's will is not affected by the human will & therefore everything about the incarnation and crucifiction were unnecessary

B) the father's will is affected by the human will & therefore God changed fundamentally & his will is weak and therefore none of them are God

No... If Jesus and the Father have two different wills, they are two separate beings meaning Jesus isn't God

If the human will was incapable of overriding the divine plan, then Jesus's human experience was entirely passive, stripped of real agency, rendering the "temptation" and subsequent spiritual struggle entirely performative.

When God created Jesus as the container his being all knowing means he created him passing all the "tests" before they happened.
A human can be created sinless and struggle because they're human. The idea God can struggle is an affront to logic and the definition of God.

4) Christians claim the divine essence isn't spatiotemporal which means God didn't come to earth at all
The attributes of all powerful, aseity, and all knowing weren't on earth.
If you claim some of the attributes came then your God is divisible
Otherwise Jesus was just an avatar and not God on earth
The hypostatic union is just special pleading and appeal to mystery

5) No early church fathers and none of the Disciples believed exactly what Trinitarians believe today. How is this not the biggest of red flags? They would all be Heretics... What's more likely they were all wrong? Or your Church corrupted the teachings of Prophet Jesus?

The system claims "progressive revelation," but theology didn't naturally progress. It stopped >1600 years ago after absorbing pagan Greek philosophical concepts to make it digestible to the Roman world. This is contrary to the Monotheism of the Jewish Christians and Arians who only lost many hundreds of years later. The Trinitarians did not win by convincing minds they won by brutally oppressing and killing their opponents.

Arguing the limits of human logic as an escape is just conceding Christianity is not logical.

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@RebornSplendid @Kryptotajeer I'm not answering anything when you can't track anything.
That's not how it works.
You don't ignore questions and ask your own.
Its also quite sad you think this is an argument. It's a comically bad one

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Only an arrogant idiot who doesn't know English can read Shakespeare in a translation can conclude that Shakespeare isn't a good writer

All the experts of the Arabic language disagree with you. Your argument only proves your idiocy and arrogance

The linguistic miracle of the Quran can be observed by non-Arabic speakers because the Quran is the only book in all of human history that redefined a language
Arabic today is based on Quran not the other way around.
Not only that but it's the Quran that elevated Arabic from a scattered largely irrelevant language to a major language that's standardized and spans the globe
Go ahead give me another example of a single book that's done this

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@PhiloxenusS @Acts17David The low IQ one is you because you didn't realize I'm pointing out the idiocy of @Acts17David argument

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Pointing out the hypocrisy and stupidity in @Acts17David argument

Also I don't speak with literal garbage that supports Zionism
Imagine claiming to be a Christian and supporting the bombing of Churches, killing of Christians, spitting on Christians, and saying Prophet Jesus peace and blessings be upon him is burning in feces
You're truly a disgusting moron

Hopefully someone does to you and your family what you support being done to Palestinain Muslims and Christians

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@RebornSplendid @Acts17David So to be clear you're affirming your false prophet Paul calls the devil god right?

Also why are you trying to argue with me we've already established you can't track a conversation.
Answer this before trying to gish gallop with other stuff

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Surely you can't be serious

So which of these 3 options are you choosing:
1) the Trinity is now Quindecemvirate (15 person) Godhead
2) God the Father denied a prayer from Jesus
3) Jesus was united in God as a loyal human servant fulfilling a mission of spreading God's truth not as a part of God

There is only one rational option and it's option 3

Like you can't be so stuck with Trinity tunnel vision that you do not understand that those are 3 mutually exclusive categories that cover all 3 possible options

Clearly you deny option 3 so which is it?
1) A 15 person Godhead?
This is absurd but no more absurd than a 3 person god
Or
2) God the Father denied a prayer request by Jesus?
This option means God the Father and Jesus do NOT have one will and therefore Jesus is not God
Pick your poison

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Jesus himself peace and blessings be upon him refutes you
Since you think you know better than Jesus himself...
What foul thing do we affirm to God that you do not?

Really quick is the scripture that ascribes lies to God and truth to Satan the uncorrupted scripture?
What about the one that ascribes commanding the mass murder of innocents including babies and children?

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Allah and his messenger never affirmed spatial extension or limitations to Allah
If you saw part one you'd know the verse that denies this
Additionally with the Hadith of the Mujaddideen (at least 1 per century)
That proves the Sunnis not Mujassima are upon haqq since the Mujassima have no Mujadiddeen
Lastly according to the Salaf the Mujassimeen are kuffar by Ijmaa
Ibn Karram was mass takfired and tabdihed by the Salaf

Your misinterpretation of the Quran isn't reality
Your forcing contradictions on a text that has none is not accepted

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The Salafis can't answer these simple Questions: Where is Allah Part 2 the counterattack

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