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Irrefutable Proof of God and All his Attributes from Logic and Reason Alone
Anyone who refutes it gets $1000 (I'm not debating PSR)
https://t.co/26ctFtbMxJ

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Or maybe the both of you recognize that Ibn Taymiyyah was a deviant and his misinterpretation of Quran is stupid.

There is an Ijmaa that hellfire does not end.

There is no contradiction in an eternal punishment for temporal sins especially when the requirement for eternal paradise is a single atoms weight of faith in one's heart.
We have 1 full unit of life to earn a single atom of goodness for a test that is incomprehensibly easy.

All evidence is that Sunni Islam is true & everything else is falsehood.
It's not even difficult.

Allah could have made it so that 20 religions were probably true and you have to spend decades finding a tiny error to determine truth but in his infinite mercy he made a little bit of looking and sincerity is all that is required to determine truth.

Everyone who rejects it does so out of ego.
"My parents, forefathers, and friends are this"
Or
"I was this for so long"

Anyone who examines things objectively only finds Sunni Islam.

I welcome anyone with doubts to have a voice call with me and I can go over all that

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Refuting Mujassima

عقيدة الماتريدية هي عقيدة الاحناف
وعقيدة الإمام الأعظم رضى اللهُ عَنْهُ ضد عقيدة الذين يسمون أنفسهم سلفية

الفقه الاكبر:
وَلَيْسَ قُرْبُ اللَّهِ تَعَالَى وَلَا بُعْدُهُ مِنْ طَرِيقِ طُولِ الْمَسَافَةِ وَقِصَرِهَا وَلَكِنْ عَلَى مَعْنَى الْكَرَامَةِ وَالْهَوَانِ، وَالْمُطِيعُ قَرِيبٌ مِنْهُ بِلَا كَيْفٍ، وَالْعَاصِي بَعِيدٌ عَنْهُ بِلَا كَيْفٍ، وَالْقُرْبُ وَالْبُعْدُ وَالْإِقْبَالُ يَقَعُ عَلَى الْمُنَاجِي، وَكَذَلِكَ جِوَارُهُ فِي الْجَنَّةِ وَالْوُقُوفُ بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ بِلَا كَيْفِيَّةٍ.

انتم تقولون بقرب وبعد المسافة

الفقه الاكبر:
يَعْلَمُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى الْمَعْدُومَ فِي حَالِ عَدَمِهِ مَعْدُومًا، وَيَعْلَمُ أَنَّهُ كَيْفَ يَكُونُ إِذَا أَوْجَدَهُ، وَيَعْلَمُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى الْمَوْجُودَ فِي حَالِ وُجُودِهِ مَوْجُودًا، وَيَعْلَمُ أَنَّهُ كَيْفَ يَكُونُ فَنَاؤُهُ، وَيَعْلَمُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى الْقَائِمَ فِي حَالِ قِيَامِهِ قَائِمًا، وَإِذَا قَعَدَ عَلِمَهُ قَاعِدًا فِي حَالِ قُعُودِهِ مِنْ غَيْرِ أَنْ يَتَغَيَّرَ عِلْمُهُ أَوْ يَحْدُثَ لَهُ عِلْمٌ، وَلَكِنَّ التَّغَيُّرَ وَالِاخْتِلَافَ يَحْدُثُ فِي الْمَخْلُوقِينَ

هذه تنفي عقيدة ابن تيمية فاسدة "حلول الحوادث" في ذات الله

العقيدة الطحاوية ايضا ضد عقيدة السلفية المعاصرة
وَتَعَالَى عَنِ الْحُدُودِ وَالْغَايَاتِ وَالْأَرْكَانِ وَالْأَعْضَاءِ وَالْأَدَوَاتِ، لَا تَحْوِيهِ الْجِهَاتُ السِّتُّ كَسَائِرِ الْمُبْتَدَعَاتِ.

وهذه ضد عقيدة ابن تيمية واتباعه مثل ابن باز الذي قال: الإمام الطبري رضى اللهُ عَنْهُ أخطأ لما نفى الجارحة وكشر الأسنان
https://t.co/uG1OmwpAjX

الإمام الطبري رضى اللهُ عَنْهُ ينفي الاعضاء والجوارح والحركة والمكان للباري وابن تيمية يثبتها

السلف والخلف معنا ليسوا معكم

[Islambackup @Islambackup]

Its hilarious watching the Mujassima cry about you becoming a Sunni.

Oh Mujassima answer these questions if you can:
1) Can your idol descend from the throne?
No, kufur as your idol is a cripple stuck on the throne and unable to descend
Yes, enters creation therefore Kufur

2) Is your idol limited in one or more direction like your Salaf (Darimi) or in all directions like Ibn Taymiyyah?

If one or more directions your idol is asymettrical.
If all directions he's divisible, limited, and has a beginning and an end. This goes against all texts.

You must abandon either Ibn Taymiyyah or your "Salaf" you cannot have both

3) Can your idol create in his direction of up?
Yes, Allah can be below creation = Kufur
No, Allah's power and will is limited = Kufur

Allah has given many mercies to make truth clear from falsehood

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وما هدفك بقول الإمام الباقلاني رضى اللهُ عَنْهُ؟
الإمام الباقلاني رضى اللهُ عَنْهُ كان اشعريا والذي كتبه في كتابه دليل ضد الذين ينكرون الصفات ليس ضد التأويل السني
المعتزلة أخطأوا لما قالوا ان اليد قطعا قدرة او نعمة
ومن الذين غلبوا المعتزلة وبدعتهم؟
الأشاعرة والماتريدية

غريب الذين يسمون انفسهم سلفية لا يعلمون معنى الادلة التي يستدلون بها ويجهلون عقائد الذين يستدلون بهم

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وما هدفك بقول الإمام الباقلاني رضى اللهُ عَنْهُ؟
الإمام الباقلاني رضى اللهُ عَنْهُ كان اشعريا والذي كتبه في كتابه دليل ضد الذين ينكرون الصفات ليس ضد التأويل السني
المعتزلة أخطأوا لما قالوا ان اليد قطعا قدرة او نعمة
ومن الذين غلبوا المعتزلة وبدعتهم؟
الأشاعرة والماتريدية

غريب الذين يسمون انفسهم سلفية لا يعلمون معنى الادلة التي يستدلون بها ويجهلون عقائد الذين يستدلون بهم

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@LilLaaHilHamd I agree 100%

[Islambackup @Islambackup]

I'm not going to put a lot of Arabic because it messes up the formatting otherwise I would have put each section with English and Arabic. So read this then reread section 8:

At section 8 الثامن he starts talking about حكمة / Wisdom after mentioning Mercy
He says Allah does thing with a wisdom to lay the groundwork that it is unwise to punish without reward.

Then he says punishments in Sharia and suffering in the world purify. That's the wisdom of punishment

والجنة طيبة لا يدخلها إلا طيب
Here he says Heaven is a good/pure place where only the good/pure enter it. Then he starts building his argument that you never have to do good to enter paradise.

Then here والنفوس (٥) الشريرة الظالمة he begins the argument that the punishment of hellfire purifies them just like the Sharia punishment of dunya purifies.

وخلق من فيه شر يزول بالتعذيب من تمام الحكمة،
The purification of evil by punishment is the perfection of wisdom

Then he says creating a soul just for it to be evil then get punished goes against wisdom and mercy [Ibn Taymiyyah is infamous for being severely deficient in reasoning this is one of many examples... also remember point 7 السابع that hellfire being eternal negates Allah having Mercy. This whole book is him proving Hellfire ends to put everyone in paradise]

Then he cites Jahm as using Hellfire to negate Allah being the most merciful & then he says Al Asharis and others negate Allah actually having Wisdom and Mercy [because they affirm eternal punishment and the way they define wisdom & mercy]. Then he says the Mutazilla and others followed Jahm in negating Mercy and Mercy [due to eternal hellfire is implied as this is the subject section among other things]
The above is more than enough to prove his position however later in the books he further iterate his position

Then for several pages he talks about heaven being eternal so we skip to
https://t.co/slINLhNvBv
Where he makes the argument that nobody deserves paradise not even the prophet ﷺ [from hadith]

Then the worst part
https://t.co/1tXaCaYvQz
السادس
He argues death is gone and nobody dies in heaven or hell and everyone needs to be somewhere then he explicitly states its impossible for them to be punished after they enter Heaven and only heaven remains. Then he says a soul either feels pain or pleasure [again his severely deficient reasoning] and since pain is gone then eternal pleasure remains.

Ibn Taymiyyah has fallen into a lot of extreme Kufur. This is the most obvious instance of it that even the most deficient in reasoning can see.

The reason the PsuedoSalafis like @1athariarchive flee me on this topic is because they don't want their masses to know Ibn Taymiyyah didn't know the basics of Islam and exactly how deficient in reasoning he is.
Yet they use him as a pillar to declare the majority of the Ummah as deviants.

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We need to show people the truth about this deviant PsuedoSalafi movement

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@SeekingEternals @floatingwordist He does... do you know how to read Arabic?
Read the section in the book I sent you

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It's hilarious seeing Christians use such bad arguments.

We know the Quran. We also know Online Christian Apologists are so weak they have to resort to low IQ arguments like "The Quran affirms the Bible" when it clearly doesn't. This is because their goal is to distract gullible people rather than intellectually engage in a subject.

A thorough refutation of a comically bad argument. Don't use it again since you know it's false now otherwise you are admitting to being gullible and low IQ
https://t.co/cfvNoSyJF9

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@Humphreynwa @PromiseOfStorms @ACTBrigitte You're committing a Genetic Fallacy.

Engage with the argument not the source.
There's $1000 in it for you if you can debunk it.
We both know you can't hence your fallacious childish response and how you're going to pull a runner now.

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I mean the full video is here people can determine exactly what you and your disgusting friends said and did.

Playing the victim is insane.
Yes denying the eternality of hellfire is kufur. Him stating as much is factually accurate.

As for you and your deviant friends lying calling the Pakistani individual a p*** those lies started because he uploaded recorded debates exposing you degenerates. The evidence of him being what you allege doesn't exist.
Seems like you need to read the Quran specifically chapter 49 and especially verse 6
https://t.co/rFtSBSgMx0

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You're ignorant so reading the post would educate you.
Greater Lebanon is the modern state we're referring to as Lebanon.
This is to differentiate between historical Mount Lebanon.

Not surprised an idiot like you would make your claim of no good from Muslims as if we didn't give safety and prosperity to the region for its entire history and this modern Maronite supremacist state has been a collosal failure.

Let's educate you on modern Lebanese History the Martyr Rafik Al Hariri الله يرحمه educated 36,000 Lebanese from all backgrounds. He also personally rebuilt Beirut following bombardment numerous times.

Not that Muslim accomplishments matter. Truth matters and Islam is true and Christianity is false objectively.
There's $1000 for you or anyone who can prove otherwise.
We dont need the PSR as the necessary will is proven with nothing after it in the chain.
https://t.co/0kfR2CG0SD

If you're incapable of reading full posts and meaningfully responsing then stick to twerking like in your profile picture while the adults are talking.

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@elzayed_mark @ACTBrigitte Learn to read

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Its hilarious that I'm being called a "white boy" as if I don't have my Lebanese face as my profile picture.

Greater Lebanon has been Muslim majority for over a thousand years.
The French doctored their census results to claim 50-50 when that is not the case.

There was significant census tampering being done with counting the Christian diaspora but not the Muslim diaspora and suppressing local registration in Muslim majority areas like the South and Beqaa.

Then fake Secularist France founded modern Lebanon as a Christian supremacist state where Sunni Muslims were second class citizens and Shia were third class citizens.
Our religion was on our driver's licenses and passports.
So jobs were gatekept via religion.
That's why even today the President must be a Maronite Christian

Following the Nakba you had armed Muslims (Palestinians) enter Lebanon and the Maronite Christians didn't like that so they allied with the Israelis to massacre them.

Beyond this the divisions between Lebanese, Palestinian, Jordan, Syrian, and South East Turkiye Shamis are an imperialist invention we're all the same people.

The 1975 Beirut bus massacre (or the Ain el-Rammaneh incident) was what sparked the civil war. Where the demonic Kataeb (Phalangists) and Lebanese Forces mass murdered the Muslim passengers.
Prior to the bus massacre the Kataeb killed Palestinians attending a political rally which resulted in the shootout outside a church.

I have Christian friends that were kidnapped from their highschools and forced to serve in Christian Militias and committed atrocities during the war (one was at Sabra and Shatila). Both of them are Atheists today. Those events played a big role despite my explaining that Prophet Jesus ﷺ would have stood with the Palestinian civilians not the genocidal Zionists and Maronites.

The demonic behaviour of the Kataeb and Lebanese Forces isn't limited to killing Muslims though they did shoot up and massacre Christians too. Like when the Frangieh family was massacred in their home in Ehden in 1978. Why did they massacre their fellow Maronite Christians? Because the Maradah didn't want to indiscriminately kill Muslims like the Kataeb and Lebanese Forces scum wanted.

@PromiseOfStorms @ramzij118368

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Its hilarious that I'm being called a "white boy" as if I don't have my Lebanese face as my profile picture.

Greater Lebanon has been Muslim majority for over a thousand years.
The French doctored their census results to claim 50-50 when that is not the case.

There was significant census tampering being done with counting the Christian diaspora but not the Muslim diaspora and suppressing local registration in Muslim majority areas like the South and Beqaa.

Then fake Secularist France founded modern Lebanon as a Christian supremacist state where Sunni Muslims were second class citizens and Shia were third class citizens.
Our religion was on our driver's licenses and passports.
So jobs were gatekept via religion.
That's why even today the President must be a Maronite Christian

Following the Nakba you had armed Muslims (Palestinians) enter Lebanon and the Maronite Christians didn't like that so they allied with the Israelis to massacre them.

Beyond this the divisions between Lebanese, Palestinian, Jordan, Syrian, and South East Turkiye Shamis are an imperialist invention we're all the same people.

The 1975 Beirut bus massacre (or the Ain el-Rammaneh incident) was what sparked the civil war. Where the demonic Kataeb (Phalangists) and Lebanese Forces mass murdered the Muslim passengers.
Prior to the bus massacre the Kataeb killed Palestinians attending a political rally which resulted in the shootout outside a church.

I have Christian friends that were kidnapped from their highschools and forced to serve in Christian Militias and committed atrocities during the war (one was at Sabra and Shatila). Both of them are Atheists today. Those events played a big role despite my explaining that Prophet Jesus ﷺ would have stood with the Palestinian civilians not the genocidal Zionists and Maronites.

The demonic behaviour of the Kataeb and Lebanese Forces isn't limited to killing Muslims though they did shoot up and massacre Christians too. Like when the Frangieh family was massacred in their home in Ehden in 1978. Why did they massacre their fellow Maronite Christians? Because the Maradah didn't want to indiscriminately kill Muslims like the Kataeb and Lebanese Forces scum wanted.

@PromiseOfStorms @ramzij118368

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You understand that your lies can easily be fact checked right?

You know the Lebanese Civil War was started by Christians (specifically the Maronites) & Israel right?

The Maronites allied with Israel to mass murder Palestinians in Sabra and Shatila

The Zionist devils you worship have been committing genocide for their entire history
https://t.co/qDhFtTIHio

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It's such a low IQ argument though.
Israel NEEDS those goods.
Giving them to them for free isn't good for America.

Borrowing money to make weapons to gift them to a genocidal maniac isn't good economic policy. Especially when US DEBT to GDP is double that of Israel.

Making billions of people hate you and boycott you because you keep doing genocide rather than forming alliances is bad for business.

You have back to back American presidents who threw elections for Israel.
Makes you think why both parties are more concerned with pleasing Israel than political power