IteAdThomam

A Spartan, being asked why he wore his beard so very long, said, "So that I may see my grey hairs and do nothing unworthy of them."

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@PeteBritish @LozzaFox Because letting “government” put an innocent man in prison for life with animals like Rudkabana ISN’T empowering?

Do make sense.

[Stephen Miller @StephenM]

The threat being made here by Mayor Bass is explicit. The Mayor of LA is effectively saying the mob violence is caused by the mere presence of ICE in the city and the violence against ICE will not stop unless federal law enforcement is withdrawn from the city. This is the definition of insurrection. LA and CA leadership demand the right to illegally import unlimited foreigners into America, to control America’s entire immigration policy by fiat — and if they are not so permitted they will allow mobs to target ICE with impunity.

Los Angeles and California are demanding the nullification of the election results, of federal law, of national sovereignty, and of the bedrock constitutional command of one national government.

[Dr. Calum Miller @DrCalumMiller]

My wife has been ARRESTED in Belgium simply for holding a sign saying "Children are never born in the wrong body" and having conversations about gender in a public place.

I cannot get hold of her.

PLEASE RT this and send to everyone you know.

Free speech in Europe is DEAD.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@BladeoftheS Remind me: why does any pension fund invest in Tesco? Or British Gas. Or Shell.

[Matt Walsh @MattWalshBlog]

I will vote for anyone who promises to kick people like this off of all entitlement programs and then imprison them for being grotesque societal leeches

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art It could be interesting and perhaps we oversimplified the original scope?

But you were correct: subjective elements are in the analysis and they make it impossible (at least for me) to know whether unaggravated same sex activity is an enormity more damning than unaggravated rape

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art Fair enough

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art So strictly consent does not mitigate evil but lack of consent aggravates evil? You’re right - that isn’t contradictory. Thanks 🙏🏿

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art I agree with this almost entirely but I’m not sure it transcends the matter at hand: for some (all?) men and women who now engage in same sex activity will have been conditioned by society or other psychological means as surely as the Indian wives of Hindu men were to suttee.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art That is clearer, thank you.

However now you are in conflict with yourself where you say (in paraphrase) “the consent itself doesn’t mitigate evil” but also that “force need not be physical but merely doing the act without the other’s consent”?

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art Even when the “consent” is engineered? As in the case of societal pressure or psychological conditioning?

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art Thank you, that is clear.

I wonder if perhaps you are conflating two evils into one? Where rape is non-consensual sex it does not necessarily imply the use of *force*.

But force seems to be what aggravates the evil in your analysis.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art Thank you, you have indeed been consistent.

I’m still interested in your answer to the (poorly framed) implied question though: burning a woman alive is evil - is burning her alive less evil if she consents to it?

Because I’m still not clear how consent mitigates anything.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art This appears to contradict your earlier assertion that “It’s horrid but it’s still a lesser evil”.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art on what “lesser”* means

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art Perhaps we should have aligned on what “better” means?

I too disputed the OP’s post as neither act is aligned with nature.

But I’m not sure how the magnitude of each evil is measured and accept wilful commission of evil risks a soul in hell. On that calculus homosex is worse.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art “I murdered an innocent woman but it wasn’t so bad because I also spent a lifetime conditioning her to be okay with it”: I’m sorry I just do not see how this is a lesser evil.

It’s simply reifying consent.

And homosex is indeed an evil done to the other as well as yourself.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art Not for a good person, no. He should prefer evil is done to them than that he wilfully perpetrates evil.

And the mitigation of consent is illusory. Burning widows alive in suttee was no less evil just because the women consented to die on their husbands’ pyres.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art To be clear, in the post to which you replied I explicitly stated that neither rape nor homosex is aligned with the nature of sex, the end of which is family.

[IteAdThomam @ite_ad]

@realImbo @meghaverma_art If I asked you if you would rather be forced to do the wrong thing or wilfully do the wrong thing I think you, as a good person, would rather be forced.

You seem to be presupposing that force is abhorrent and unacceptable while homosex is not abhorrent and unacceptable.