Well, you don’t pay the same rent price today as you did 5 or 10 years ago. Deals evolve based on time and circumstances.
Plus, America is the most powerful & most generous nation in human history. It rebuilt the world after WWII. Its innovations are what drive civilization forward & it’s only getting stronger & stronger.
It doesn’t need “friends” who cry every time a deal gets reviewed. It only needs power & good leaders who protect its national security, economy, & growth.
The whole planet still lines up to deal with America because nothing else comes close.
Trump is right about the basic issue.
Canada can’t spend years protecting parts of its own market & then act shocked when the US decides it wants reciprocity.
You don’t have to like Trump to understand the numbers. Canada has about 40 million people, the US has more than 340 million, & the US economy is roughly 10x larger. The US is also overwhelmingly Canada’s biggest trading partner.
So when Carney talks about fighting “dollar for dollar,” what exactly does that mean? Matching the tariff amount doesn’t mean matching the economic damage. Canada depends far more on access to the US market than the US depends on access to Canada.
Canada has every right to protect its own interests & retaliate. But the US has the same right. If Canada wants to reduce its dependence on America, then build other markets & supply chains. That’s going to take decades, not speeches.
You don’t have to like Trump to understand this. Canada is sovereign, but sovereignty doesn’t make two economies equal.
The numbers are what they are.
That “we can just cut your power” threat is dumb & weak, lol
Canada’s electricity only covers a couple percent of the Northeast, not some existential switch. The grids are linked so tightly that yanking it risks blackouts & chaos on both sides of the border. Canadian utilities would also torch their own revenue & contracts.
Meanwhile the US can do far worse if it wants. Canada lives off selling oil & gas (60% of crude imports, almost all natural gas). The US can slam those with tariffs, slow the pipelines, or just buy less. Also keep hammering dairy & everything else until it hurts.
Remember, the US market is 10x times bigger. Canada can’t even compete with Texas, lol
Nah. You’re padding the numbers hard, lol
US is about 8.5x the population, closer to 10x the farms, not 30x, & “consumes 20x of everything” is just made up.
Plus, Canada’s dairy & poultry quotas exist to keep prices high for a small group of producers. This is not protecting “small farms,” it’s a closed shop.
If those farms can’t compete without heavy protection, then the protection is the problem, not the size difference.
Bigger market gets to demand reciprocity.
The “Trump called USMCA the best deal ever, & now he wants to change it” argument is pretty weak & stupid, lol
Trump put a review process & a sunset provision into USMCA on purpose. The whole point was to revisit the deal instead of letting another NAFTA sit untouched for decades.
6 years later, the US still has major trade deficits, Canada still protects its market with massive tariffs beyond its quotas, & Chinese goods are still finding their way through Canada & others.
So him using the review to demand better terms isn’t “writing in pencil.” That’s literally what the review is for.
If you think the deal is still good, make that argument. But pretending Trump has no right to renegotiate a deal specifically designed to be reviewed is just a stupid argument.
False. You’re the one playing games with the numbers.
Plus, yeah strip out energy & the balance flips. Canada sells the US oil & gas America actually needs. Those prices come from the market. Occasional pipeline discounts still leave Canadian producers better off than shipping it halfway around the world. This is not charity. That’s energy security for both sides. Pretend energy doesn’t count & you’re just admitting Canada’s non-energy trade is weak, lol
Canada still locks American dairy farmers out with 200 to 300 percent over-quota tariffs. Supply management keeps the Canadian market closed while their producers get protected prices. That is non-reciprocity plain & simple.
Calling it MAGA cope doesn’t make the tariffs disappear. It just shows you’d rather insult people than defend the policy.
Waving the 40 trillion debt number like some gotcha is also weak. 80% of that debt sits with domestic holders.
The US pulls in trillions in taxes every year & still runs the deepest capital markets on earth. Using tariffs as leverage against a country that depends way more on the US market is not desperation but a leverage.
Also Canada’s dairy system has been a one-way street for decades. Reciprocity means ending the free pass, not pretending energy exports cancel every other barrier.
Btw, you didn’t refute anything. You changed the subject & threw stupid names, lol
The “Trump called USMCA the best deal ever, & now he wants to change it” argument is pretty weak & stupid, lol
Trump put a review process & a sunset provision into USMCA on purpose. The whole point was to revisit the deal instead of letting another NAFTA sit untouched for decades.
6 years later, the US still has major trade deficits, Canada still protects its market with massive tariffs beyond its quotas, & Chinese goods are still finding their way through Canada & others.
So him using the review to demand better terms isn’t “writing in pencil.” That’s literally what the review is for.
If you think the deal is still good, make that argument. But pretending Trump has no right to renegotiate a deal specifically designed to be reviewed is just a stupid argument.
Quotas aren’t generally under 25%. The average USMCA dairy TRQ fill rate is around 42%, & 9 of the 14 categories sit under 50%. Some are lower, cheese often fills up, but a big chunk of the negotiated access still goes unused.
They’re not almost identical either. Canada runs full supply management with production quotas &price controls, plus 200-300% over-quota tariffs that basically shut down anything above the limit.
Also, the US has TRQs & supports, but not the same closed system. Low fill rates mostly happen because Canada hands most of the quota to its own processors who have 0 reason to import competing US product. Retailers get shut out under the USMCA rules in ways they don’t under the EU deal.
Plus, calling it a non-issue just because no over-quota duties got collected misses the point. Those high tariffs exist so the quota itself is the barrier. When the quota gets under-used on purpose, the restriction is real.
This isn’t some desperate move over US debt, lol. It’s about reciprocity.
Canada has protected its dairy sector for years with supply management and over-quota tariffs that hit 200 to 300 percent, shutting out a lot of American farmers. The US market is about 10x larger, so Canada depends on it way more than the other way around.
Plus, the US brings in over 5 trillion dollars in federal taxes every year. Its economy is still one of the strongest among major countries, & it’s leading the next wave of AI growth.
Around 70 to 80 percent of the debt is held inside the country by the Fed, funds, pensions & other domestic holders. Tariffs here are leverage, not a last-ditch money grab.
And while we’re on the topic of consistency, Mark Carney’s own family & money are heavily tied to the US. About 91 percent of his investments are American, & half his daughters live or study there.
Funny how quiet people stay about that.
As I said, the US is not heaven, but by any real-world standard, it’s the closest thing on this planet.
America doesn’t need Canadian energy. It produces more oil than you do. It can replace every drop you send faster than you can say ‘pipeline.’
But you have zero alternatives. No other country is lining up to buy what America already takes.
The world needs America. China needs the American market. Europe needs the American market. And Canada needs the American market more than any other country on Earth.
Without America, your whole economy folds.
You’re smaller than Texas. Sit this one out.
Goodbye, clown.
There are no countries that can replace the US.
The world needs America, China needs America, Europe needs America, Canada needs America, & everyone else does too. No other market is that large, that open, that wealthy, or that reliable as a buyer.
You can cry about “finding better partners” all day, but the numbers don’t lie: three-quarters of Canadian exports already go south, & nothing China or Europe can offer comes close to matching that demand.
Trying to replace the US is a fantasy for stupid people.
Stop deflecting with raw body counts, clown. You’re still Canadian.
Your PIT numbers show homelessness jumped 59% since 2020-22 & basically doubled since 2018, with the unsheltered side going through the roof. Toronto & Vancouver are still complete messes, rents are crushing stagnant wages, taxes take a massive bite out of every paycheque, & productivity lags the US hard.
Tossing out 770k American homeless or people living in cars doesn’t put a single affordable roof over Canadian heads or fix the mess you’ve got going.
The US has real issues including homelessness, but it still outperforms Canada on pretty much every metric that matters: wealth, innovation, energy, AI, the works. Absolute numbers look big because there are 340 million people there.
Your whole country still has a smaller GDP than Texas alone. You can’t even compete with one American state, lol.
The currency gap doesn’t mean America has been ripping Canada off, lol
A weaker loonie makes Canadian stuff cheaper & easier to sell in the American market. That’s a boost for Canadian energy, lumber, farming,manufacturing, etc. Sure, it makes some US imports cost more for Canadians, but exchange rates move with markets, not some plot
Plus, the US runs a goods deficit with Canada most years, often tens of billions, mostly from energy. Canada ships about three quarters of its exports south. The US sends a much smaller share the other way. Free trade deals grew that trade & created jobs & income on both sides. Canada gets a lot more out of selling into a market 10x bigger than the other way around.
And the idea that Canada can just ignore certain American products forever? Vehicles, machinery, parts & tech from the US are baked into Canadian industry & everyday life.
You can target some things in a fight, but the size difference means Canada usually feels it harder. Being linked isn’t the same as being taken advantage of.
The “Trump called USMCA the best deal ever, & now he wants to change it” argument is pretty weak & stupid, lol
Trump put a review process & a sunset provision into USMCA on purpose. The whole point was to revisit the deal instead of letting another NAFTA sit untouched for decades.
6 years later, the US still has major trade deficits, Canada still protects its market with massive tariffs beyond its quotas, & Chinese goods are still finding their way through Canada & others.
So him using the review to demand better terms isn’t “writing in pencil.” That’s literally what the review is for.
If you think the deal is still good, make that argument. But pretending Trump has no right to renegotiate a deal specifically designed to be reviewed is just a stupid argument.
Stop deflecting, clown. You’re Canadian.
Your housing is a complete disaster. People locked out in Toronto & Vancouver, taxes taking a huge chunk of every paycheque, wages stagnant as hell, productivity trash compared to the US.
Plus, the US not going into any depression & it’s not a dying empire. People been saying that same bullshit since Vietnam. Economy still growing, AI exploding, military still #1 by far, innovation still dominates. Getting stronger & stronger no matter who’s in charge.
Healthcare costs & school shootings are real US problems. America isn’t heaven. But it doesn’t change the fact that the US is still richer, more productive, more innovative, & more powerful overall while Canada keeps running the same failures on loop.
Fix your own house before calling anyone inferior.
Wonder what you eat then? Potash, oil, hydro, uranium?
US can source potash elsewhere, oil from a dozen countries plus its own, uranium from Australia, Kazakhstan & stockpiles. Electricity is a tiny regional nothing. Pipelines get fixed, contracts change.
Who replaces America for Canada? No one, lol
Canada is a mid-size economy with a stupid population. That “mid-size economy” only exists because of the US. Stick it anywhere else & it’s a third-world dump with resources that exist all over the planet.
Stupid keyboard warrior like you don’t understand the real world. Ask Canadian companies that actually have employees how they feel about cutting the US off. They’ll teach that empty skull of yours something.
First of all, I’m not Emirati, you clown. I live & run my companies in the second-best city in the world after NY.
Second, even if I were, the UAE is still 100x better than Canada. Zero income tax, real economic growth, modern cities, modern infrastructure, & a government that actually builds instead of taxing the shit out of people.
Meanwhile, Canada is dealing with a housing disaster, insane taxes, stagnant wages, & now picking a trade fight with an economy 10x its size while your clown PM stands there yelling “dollar for dollar” like repeating it somehow makes Canada America’s equal.
You’re talking shit about the UAE while living in a shit-hole country with housing unaffordability, brutal taxes, weak wage growth, stupid population, & a government that thinks another tax is the answer to everything.
Maybe fix your own backyard first.
And keep crying, lol.
The “Trump called USMCA the best deal ever, & now he wants to change it” argument is pretty weak & stupid, lol
Trump put a review process & a sunset provision into USMCA on purpose. The whole point was to revisit the deal instead of letting another NAFTA sit untouched for decades.
6 years later, the US still has major trade deficits, Canada still protects its market with massive tariffs beyond its quotas, & Chinese goods are still finding their way through Canada & others.
So him using the review to demand better terms isn’t “writing in pencil.” That’s literally what the review is for.
If you think the deal is still good, make that argument. But pretending Trump has no right to renegotiate a deal specifically designed to be reviewed is just a stupid argument.
Then what exactly are you going to eat?
The US could also take over Canada in one day & seize its resources if we’re throwing around stupid hypotheticals. The US has a military several times the size of Canada’s & spends hundreds of billions more on defense.
Obviously nobody is seriously suggesting an invasion. That’s the point. If you want to play the “Canada can just shut off the oil and potash” game, then don’t pretend the US has no leverage of its own.
Remember, it’s Canada, lol