@Salade_Hater27@ln1nited Mohammed Atta picked the dates and time and the early morning was critical so that they had the easiest chance to get through security at the Portland jetport and Logan International
@Lee_2677@flawlopaid@tanosully I made a typo, there should be a period between “preparation” and “in the U.S.” KSM wasn’t in the U.S. His nephew wanted to be one of the hijackers though and KSM said fat chance. Then he called Atta behind his back trying to get in but his visa got denied lmao
Wrong, typical sheep… KSM met Mohammed Atta in Karachi for operational preparation in the U.S. Atta coordinated his own teams and target assignments and settled the attack date. Atta who rejected the White House as too difficult and worked through the details of what his own pilots could actually hit. All Bin Laden did was um…well he might’ve done some stuff I left out I guess
What’s funny is he actually didn’t deny it outright. His response was that he was living under the Taliban’s rules for being there, and Omar wouldn’t allow him to attack. He even killed Omar’s rival right before 9/11 cause he knew he was gonna blow a gasket in a few days. Like buying your wife that dress she’s m wanted because you’re going on a fishing trip in Mexico next week and she don’t know
@ThatRetiredDude@jakeshieldsajj Obviously he denied it. He was hiding under Taliban protection, Mullah Omar told him not to do anything too crazy then 9/11 happens and Bush was saying his name on TV the next week and telling Omar to turn him over? What was he supposed to say
@WexlerHarr49230@stinkyfromalt@25YearsAgoLive Really? Who planned it and how and had the 19 hijackers carry it out? Cause I can tell you precisely how the plan came to be as early as 1993 when Ramsi yousef spent night after night with his uncle drawing up what would eventually become 9/11
I’ll correct Grok on one thing, those that have listened to the actual audio have said at least two or more of the hijackers was locked outside the cockpit during the revolt. Certainly at least one because a passenger yells out that the bomb or suicide vest they were threatened with “is fake, it’s a fake!”
There’s rapid banging on the cockpit door before the first of the passengers reaches the front. Jarrah asks if there’s a fight outside. Then more banging and a hijacker outside yells “stay back” and then American men start mauling whoever it is and yell “get in the cockpit get in the cockpit.”
A Hijacker looking through the peephole tells Jarrah “They want to get in” and tells the others in the cockpit “hold the door from the inside”
Jarrah is flying the plane and goes “What?”
Guy at the door says “There are some guys. All those guys”
A hijacker is still trying to fight. The American guys are yelling “Get them, get them” and thrashing him. Jarrah is like “What? What?”
Then the Americans must’ve killed the last hijacker outside because they start bashing hard at the door and one yells “Get in the cockpit or we’ll die” “Inside” and “Let’s get them”
Then Jarrah tells the others to just sit down and give up and trust Allah. The Americans may or may not have broken through the door because there is chaos and fighting and Jarrah starts yelling says “give it to me! No! give it to me!” and the plane crashes.
And it was the Taliban. Bin Laden issued a public Declaration of War against the U.S. in 1996, months after arriving back in Afghanistan. In ‘98 he issued a sweeping fatwa for Muslims to kill Americans. He gave press conferences and TV interviews from Afghan soil. After the embassy bombings the Taliban was sanctioned over his presence explicitly. None of this escaped the Taliban. Bin Laden was a liability likely to destroy them. Mullah Omar and the others in Kandahar either didn't believe it or wouldn't act on it.
Only Muttawakil tried to do the right thing by trying to warn the U.S. that Bin Laden was up to something big. But when he tried to have him expelled he was overruled by Omar and the Kandahar hardliners.
Bin Laden made no secret of his goals. He issued a public Declaration of War against the U.S. in 1996, months after arriving back in Afghanistan. In ‘98 he issued a sweeping fatwa for Muslims to kill Americans. He gave press conferences and TV interviews from Afghan soil. After the embassy bombings the Taliban was sanctioned over his presence explicitly. None of this escaped the Taliban. Bin Laden was a liability likely to destroy them. Mullah Omar and the others in Kandahar either didn't believe it or wouldn't act on it.
@25YearsAgoLive They have obtained a snippet of the audio on Flight 93 now. Evidently a couple hijackers got locked outside the cockpit and suddenly wanted in. Their buddies wouldn’t open it for some reason: