@firemandd@j_clem I’m think the FO did fine on this. In retrospect Holse is very clearly meant to be a Hartel replacement, and they signed him before they even sold Hartel.
It does mean we’re at basically Net 0 this transfer window and it will be extremely disappointing if we don’t get another DP
@TaylorTwellman@stlCITYsc Take Hartel out of the equation for a second, this was a contest between Hannover and at. Louis City to seize the most of the surplus from the transaction that they could, and Hannover dogwalked City worse than Belgium demolished the United States. Utterly disgraceful.
@j_clem@firemandd This would be a lot easier to stomach if it happened all the time. But it doesn’t. I’ve been following the league for 16 years now and the only other time I can recall this ever happening is with Lozano and SD.
@Kdog762@smittycoach11 Losing Hartel hurts but nothing can dampen my optimism after Damet put out disaster of a roster in playoff position and the FO has proven their willingness to spend with Holse. Long-term, we’re more than fine.
@j_clem@firemandd If we get a reputation for allowing players to skip out on their contracts whenever they want that’ll hurt the club in the long run, too.
@chriskerber@stlCITYsc Hartel’s 30. By the time we’ve finished the rebuild and are ready to start contending for trophies, Hartel will no longer be the piece we need him to be. Move him on and start getting the next DP acclimated and playing in Damet’s system.
@smittycoach11 Diego didn’t do anything. Marcel Hartel is 30 years old now and will be 32 at the very earliest point at which this Damet-led rebuild could be in its championship window. Is he going to win us games 2-3 years from now? If the answer is no, move him and find someone who will.
@PexySidgeon@MattBakerSTL@stlCITYsc We can move him anytime, we’d just probably have to accept less money in the transfer fee. Worth it to get Cello for the last two open cup matches imho.
@MattBakerSTL@stlCITYsc To be fair, I think if you could push a button and make Hartel more like Holse (less ball progression, fewer assists, more goals) pressing that button would probably make us a better team, or at least fit immediate needs better.
@ManagerTactical Pro/rel just doesn’t make business sense. You can have Messi, and all of our fancy stadiums and world-class training facilities, or you can have pro/rel. you cannot have both.
@markvalorian Now I know you’re arguing in bad faith. It is blindingly obvious to anyone passingly familiar with US sports that American franchises are worth more because they don’t have promotion and relegation.
@markvalorian Multiculturalism is central to MLS’ identity. I think it’s perfectly appropriate to have some euro style names and some American style names. And I think that in the long run, offering a fan experience that is neither euro nor American will attract the most fans.
@reformussoccer MLS is in a growth phase - they *should* be unprofitable while investing in infrastructure and growing the league. If they’re running a surplus they really should borrow some money and invest it in the league some more.
@notbarile@ProspectsUsmnt If you want to develop young players you have to play them over veterans that are better on the short term, but not the long term.