@YouMeetANew@pendoodlex@MelindaOfTraken It's also even more ironic that in the clip they're showing, Luka does quite the opposite of "reducing" marinette's inner life to romance, he literally says there must be other secrets in her life not solely about her crush that's not a secret to begin with
@kthluka I will never take the haters who criticise Luka for being a "too perfect" seriously when they also hold him to such ridiculously high standards than any characters (even the *supposed* responsible adults) and bash him for any humanizing flaw and paint it as "toxic"💀
@kthluka This person's argument about why Luka is a "bad" brother is simply because he didn't act like a full licensed therapist towards his sister and cuts the part that shows Juleka literally regaining confidence in herself and lightens up because of Luka's encouraging words
@Julesrossi277@sapphinette Apparently nothing can satisfy the Luka haters, like they could have JUST said they dislike Luka for their own personal reasons without making a whole ass thread to sound pseudo-intellectual and then act like chicken and hide viewing when people call them out for their bs
@sapphinette Where Luka literally tries to resist the akuma and LITERALLY says "Truth should be shared not forced" and even warns marinette to protect her, like this person demonises Luka for simply feeling upset as if he's it's wrong💀
@sapphinette This person quite literally contradict themselves throughout the thread, like criticising him for his "absolute passivity" and then when he does something that defies this notion apparently that means he's "not respecting marinette's privacy" and cut the part-
@m0usinette No you're not, I also think he should go solo, it would be lame to conclude his character arc by giving him another romantic relationship instead of exploring his character as his own
@Lady_noir_2026@Trixxibug@blindbuttercat@Ladynoirarebae@ladybugaboobug What annoys me the most about this ship is that it's primarily dependent on flattening the characters and dismissing their nuance so they reduce Luka to being "the chill therapist guy" ignoring the fact that he doesn't tolerate anyone who humiliates someone he cares about
@QueenOfFern Except a lot of the time people didn't treat as a crack ship, there are a lot of people in the fandom who unironically want the ship to be canon and even begged Astruc to canonise it which is the core issue here
@HikaruHugo@Lady_noir_2026@Trixxibug@blindbuttercat@Ladynoirarebae@ladybugaboobug And somehow people go radio silent when Chloe trashed Luka's outfit, also I don't get how someone can view the "cute" remark as a "genuine compliment" from Chloe when the context was patronising asl, she literally just treated him like a pretty doll under her hands to control
@wicked_vt@Grand27234066@vad_si@StanUrisStanley@V_Deviltrigger I would like to add that at the time of Captain Stacy's death, all the city mistook Spider-Man for killing him so it's not just Gwen "irrationally" placing the blame on Spider-Man, even after she travels to London she starts to consider changing her view on Spider-Man
@DPN098 Seriously when will people stop with this dumb notion that TASM!Gwen is "blond MJ", TASM!Gwen has most of the core traits that og Gwen has like her fierce nature and standing up firmly to what she believes and supporting people she cares about and she also has wits in the comic
@aki48399@JegssArt I thought so too lol, like dante used to persistently get annoyed at anyone who doesn't shut his mouth and deadpool definitely would annoy the hell out of him since he's the "merc with a mouth"