@dancingchicken9@DrewBMcIntyre@dancingchicken9 People can go where they want now. Nothing stops them, except perhaps a thirst for greed and power. Let's see what God's Holy Spirit will do with the life of the #UMC, rather than hovering like vultures over a dead carcass. This is a church of life, not death.
I pray that there will be better results than this. We are capable of better things that unite us. And I pray that we all pray for it. The faithful witness of the conferences who voted for these delegates calls us to this goal. #UMC@kevinwatson#GC2020
My admittedly pessimistic prediction for the 2020 UMC General Conference: Centrists are emboldened by success in delegate elections this summer and convince themselves to try one more time. They fail. Again. And everyone loses. Again. I so hope I'm wrong.
@utsdoc Hmm, @utsdoc, kind of strange that you muted this. I don't want to troll, it's an honest dialogue, from my perspective. Scripture calls for unity. Let's continue to work on it.
@utsdoc Separation is separation. You assume cooperation for a division into ideological boxes that most United Methodists neither want nor seek. You can't call this a destruction less than we could call MEC,S's creation "cooperative separation." Hence, my comment.
@DrewBMcIntyre In fairness, love comes to us through God's glory - God's highest reputation comes from God's love in Christ. To claim God's love without claiming God's glory, or vice versa, seems to miss half of the story of salvation. Love is the power manifest in God's world.
@utsdoc But the elimination and division of The United Methodist Church is the core and the foundation of Bard-Jones.Three separate GCs. Three separate disciplines. No common name. Denying that this is not division does not warrant serious engagement.
@isierranichole Amen. Sometimes we have Ozzie and Harriet growth goals for our churches that radically exclude people on different life paths. Recreating the 1950s of (mostly white) America doesn't really meet the goals of Jesus for the transformation of the world...
@utsdoc Methodism has always been a movement that has embraced a wide array of outlooks within our theological core. You take as a prima facie assumption that division is a good solution. OCP shows that this is not necessarily the case. We can manage diversity more effectively.
@utsdoc I appreciate the engagement. In fairness, though, with awareness of the issues, how does this solution amount to anything other than three separate but supposedly equal denominations, cast on the lines of stereotypes more than the actual diversity of congregations and conferences
@utsdoc "Sick," "silly"... You're a smart person, David, I think you can do better than that. You know you can. Clearly the plan for dissolution requires more genuine engagement, and my comment stands unaddressed. Please tell us how this is not division for the sake of division.
@GuyKawasaki A point of clarification, many Christians in the U.S.,including many white Christians as well as people of color, do not stand by Trump's policies or politics. #LetsGetBiblical