secret place = hidden with christ....Col 3:3ย For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4ย When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
@AgelessDiy secret place = hidden with christ....Col 3:3ย For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4ย When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
you said "God may actually use that Truth to cause the fear of the LORD in them, to bring His elect out of their false conversion."........I agree.......His word to HIS people is to COME OUT!
Rev 18:4ย And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
@Biblicalman same afflictions here...
1Pe 5:9ย Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the SAME AFFLICTIONS are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
check this out...its not mine, but i thought it might encourage you a bit
https://t.co/utKO3GHHJ7
God looked at a man and said: "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you."
Nineteen chapters later, that same man looks at God and says:
"Cursed be the day on which I was born. My mother should have been my grave."
This is one of the most staggering collisions in scripture.
In Jeremiah 1, God speaks like a sculptor. The Hebrew verb for "formed" (yatsar) describes a potter shaping wet clay with bare hands. God treats the womb as an altar where a destiny is permanently pressed into human flesh.
Then comes Jeremiah 20.
Jeremiah radically attacks the very place God claimed:
"Cursed be the day on which I was born! ... Because he did not kill me in the womb; so my mother would have been my grave, and her womb enlarged forever."
He looks back at the place God claimed to have loved and shaped him, and decrees that it should have been his cemetery. He wishes his motherโs body had remained swollen with his corpse forever.
This is not a cry for relief; it is a retroactive veto. It is saying: The ink of divine intention should have dried in the bottle. Even death is insufficient, because dying leaves behind the record that I existed and was broken. I do not want an end. I want an erasure.
It is the most absolute rejection of creaturehood imaginable. And yet, here it sits in sacred scripture, completely unedited.
Ancient mythology had zero tolerance for this kind of grief. Mortals who challenged the gods were instantly destroyed. Human religion almost always buries the scream to protect the reputation of the temple.
The God of the Bible despises religious propaganda.
By canonizing Jeremiah 20, God binds His own character to human despair. He gives agony legal standing in court. He refuses to let anyone believe being chosen by God is an insurance policy against being ground into dust.
Jeremiah ends his curse in verse 18: "Why did I come out from the womb to see toil and sorrow, and spend my days in shame?"
And then, silence.
No lightning bolt, loud rebuke or lecture on divine sovereignty.
A petty tyrant executes the subject who curses the reign. An insecure king cannot tolerate a son saying, "I wish you were never my father."
A true Father does not police the tone of a bleeding son.
God lets the scream hang in the air. The chapter simply fades to black, and in chapter 21, God resumes speaking to Jeremiah without a single word of defensive vindication.
The most extraordinary detail is that Jeremiah preserved this moment himself.
Nobody leaked chapter 20. At some point after the dust settled, the same man who cursed his own creation wrote his darkest hour into the permanent record. He did not redact it or soften it with a pious footnote.
Recording the curse is proof that he outlived it. He put it on the page to say: look at how low I sank, and look at the fact that I am the one still standing here to tell you.
The man who wished his mother had been his grave went on to write the book of Lamentations, giving three thousand years of human sorrow its language.
God can afford the silence because He knows Jeremiah's twentieth-chapter collapse cannot overthrow His first-chapter decree. The foundation does not buckle just because the man inside is thrashing against the walls.
Jeremiah was not an atheist walking away; he was a broken son slamming his fists against his Father's chest.
And God did not move. He absorbed the blows and waited in absolute composure, knowing that when the boy's strength finally gave out, the only place left for him to collapse was straight into the hands that formed him.
This is how a Spirit of Christ son of God counsels the brethren....with the Word of God.
JC Sovereign knew the exact text every son of God thought when reading my original post.
Nothing brings me joy like this, seeing the brethren using the Word as intended.
be encouraged bro Manny.....same afflictions...1Pe 5:9ย Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
this link isnt mine, but i saved it....i found it encouraging....thought you might like it...
https://t.co/ZSLF4WRh4W
God looked at a man and said: "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you."
Nineteen chapters later, that same man looks at God and says:
"Cursed be the day on which I was born. My mother should have been my grave."
This is one of the most staggering collisions in scripture.
In Jeremiah 1, God speaks like a sculptor. The Hebrew verb for "formed" (yatsar) describes a potter shaping wet clay with bare hands. God treats the womb as an altar where a destiny is permanently pressed into human flesh.
Then comes Jeremiah 20.
Jeremiah radically attacks the very place God claimed:
"Cursed be the day on which I was born! ... Because he did not kill me in the womb; so my mother would have been my grave, and her womb enlarged forever."
He looks back at the place God claimed to have loved and shaped him, and decrees that it should have been his cemetery. He wishes his motherโs body had remained swollen with his corpse forever.
This is not a cry for relief; it is a retroactive veto. It is saying: The ink of divine intention should have dried in the bottle. Even death is insufficient, because dying leaves behind the record that I existed and was broken. I do not want an end. I want an erasure.
It is the most absolute rejection of creaturehood imaginable. And yet, here it sits in sacred scripture, completely unedited.
Ancient mythology had zero tolerance for this kind of grief. Mortals who challenged the gods were instantly destroyed. Human religion almost always buries the scream to protect the reputation of the temple.
The God of the Bible despises religious propaganda.
By canonizing Jeremiah 20, God binds His own character to human despair. He gives agony legal standing in court. He refuses to let anyone believe being chosen by God is an insurance policy against being ground into dust.
Jeremiah ends his curse in verse 18: "Why did I come out from the womb to see toil and sorrow, and spend my days in shame?"
And then, silence.
No lightning bolt, loud rebuke or lecture on divine sovereignty.
A petty tyrant executes the subject who curses the reign. An insecure king cannot tolerate a son saying, "I wish you were never my father."
A true Father does not police the tone of a bleeding son.
God lets the scream hang in the air. The chapter simply fades to black, and in chapter 21, God resumes speaking to Jeremiah without a single word of defensive vindication.
The most extraordinary detail is that Jeremiah preserved this moment himself.
Nobody leaked chapter 20. At some point after the dust settled, the same man who cursed his own creation wrote his darkest hour into the permanent record. He did not redact it or soften it with a pious footnote.
Recording the curse is proof that he outlived it. He put it on the page to say: look at how low I sank, and look at the fact that I am the one still standing here to tell you.
The man who wished his mother had been his grave went on to write the book of Lamentations, giving three thousand years of human sorrow its language.
God can afford the silence because He knows Jeremiah's twentieth-chapter collapse cannot overthrow His first-chapter decree. The foundation does not buckle just because the man inside is thrashing against the walls.
Jeremiah was not an atheist walking away; he was a broken son slamming his fists against his Father's chest.
And God did not move. He absorbed the blows and waited in absolute composure, knowing that when the boy's strength finally gave out, the only place left for him to collapse was straight into the hands that formed him.
@Lenny_knowsalot yeah bro...its pure evil we are up against!.....but....for they know not what they do!....He has you in his hands and no man can pluck you outta His hands!