Jeremy Johnson

Robben Media

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@RaviTejaKNTS @thsottiaux Dot does consume from this. The actual interaction talking to them doesn't, but the work they do does.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@thsottiaux Let me call it from car play

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

Really enjoying this. Everyone say hi to Iris

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@davis7 I've lost respect for you with this one tweet.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@NetworkChuck Which model/printer? I had Opus do a blender model for a tablet mount, slice it, update settings, and send it to my bambu lab printer last week. It was amazing.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

This is interesting. Did Google just sneak back in?

[Theo - t3.gg @theo]

Wait what

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

$12,000 if API costs at 95% gross margin is around $400 loss monthly. So he's costing them $14,000ish per year. They make billions. This is a blip. They spent more on the transparent ModRetro Chromatics they gave out today.

And I used AI to help me with the math so now we've wasted their compute on this argument too.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

I understood your point before. No. We aren't subsidizing him any more than me paying full price at Walmart subsidizes someone using coupons. These prices aren't made off the cuff. People actually have to work through the margins. Blaming one person who uses a strategy to compound subscriptions just because he's a public face isn't effective. He's not cheating them. They literally shared the strategy for combining the subscriptions.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

I was pretty annoyed with the lower pricing announcement by @openai -- Holy crap, usage is solved. I'm running parallel agents on multiple projects and hitting 1% usage an hour.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

I don't think that's the case. I feel like the only free usage he gets is when he tests the models, which I think is sucky that people get to test them early, but whatever. We all have the opportunity to buy multiple subscriptions, so that's nothing that he's getting that we don't have the opportunity to get. Yes, some people can't afford it, but I can't afford a Lambo either. Give him a hard time for being pretentious at times or I know it all. But this is just a dumb argument.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

I saw you press the button where’s my reset?!?

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@theo I saw @t3dotcodes on @OpenAI’s presentation. Success

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@thsottiaux If there are additional credits, I kind of wonder if they're cutting it in half because they expect the other half of the usage to be for their Grok Bot alternative.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

Let's just hope for 2x resets and it'll even out.

[Tibo @thsottiaux]

Hi,

Tomorrow we are re-opening the Pro $200 subscriptions to new subscribers, but together with it we are also changing how we calculate the usage for it. In effect, if you do the math, it will net out at half the dollar in API spend compared to the old Pro $200 plan.

Now that it's said, let me explain why this is happening and why you will still get more work done than if you were on the Pro $200 subscription one month ago.

(a) We didn't want to compromise in other ways and are committing to not reintroducing the 5h limit, so that you can fully use the weekly usage when you want.
(b) On the subscription, we guarantee that over time you always get more work done and with an increasing level of quality. This means that you will continue to get more value per dollar spent as a result of models getting more efficient and us passing down the improvements in the form of API price reductions.
(c) We don't want to put an incentive on ourselves to artificially inflate the API list prices to make it look like you are getting a lot (and workaround it through discounts, etc). Instead we want to continue to both rapidly reduce prices and increase capabilities of models on the API. This week we introduced GPT-6 Sol and GPT-6 Luna at 50% of their previous price. Over time, we see prices go low enough that it makes sense for most to buy usage as needed without there being a significant gap between what you get in a subscription and what you get in the API for a dollar spent.
(d) Tomorrow, we are adding more things to the subscription that won't draw on the usage, I won't reveal what that is yet.

I wanted to be transparent before all the big announcements tomorrow. Lots of new exciting things are coming to the subscriptions that will make it super compelling, but I wanted to make sure to share this change ahead of time so you can all understand it before we shower you with good news.

Codexingly,
Tibo

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@dobroslav_dev No. You can cancel.

[Tibo @thsottiaux]

I’ll explain the new Pro 200 plan differently, before I start live tweeting from DevDay on things that are going out!

Today we are going to ship a number of things that increase what you can do across the Plus and Pro plans. A lot of compute is online for this increase. As we increase the floor, we are changing the relative difference between plans to be

Plus = 1X
Pro 100 = 5X
Pro 200 = 10X

and we are reopening subscriptions for Pro 200 (we had paused it). If you have an existing plan you will keep the 20X multiplier for a bit and also receive a lot of additional credits because we know changes are hard even if it means that everyone will get more in the end.

[Tibo @thsottiaux]

That was yesterday, today is DevDay. And it's all good news. I'm surprised we've kept it all under wraps.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@theo @AfricanKafka Right… because until a YouTuber tweets, they have no idea the financials of their models. They have no tools to do the math. His tweets don’t cause nerfs. Usage and available computer does.

[Jeremy Johnson @jdjb78]

@RhysSullivan 10k is retail not cost. There’s a pretty large markup on API pricing. The issue was growth without being able to buy more resources. It’s likely not a financial problem; it is a resource problem.