Here is what is happening with BoberBattle and Project X.
I’m sorry that we’re back in this situation, especially since the last “war” hasn’t even ended. However, there’s no other choice. Creators, developers, and now even the community are being threatened, attacked, and banned from Telegram groups by these individuals. Once everyone is removed (over 15 people so far), they spread FUD about Project X, targeting and dividing members with hateful speech, racism, and more. They threatened us with “bounty on our heads / hiring people to beat us up / trying to destroy our Web2/Web3 businesses.”
This is the only place I can post since I’ve been banned in ALL channels where the FUD is ongoing, and an explanation is needed for us as individuals, and for Project X, both being heavily affected by this situation.
I am posting this only because Project X, me, and @BubuMVX are being defamed by the very people who are trying to scam us.
This is the only post I will make about this, the only statement, and I will answer all questions only in the replies here, so everything can be easily seen.
Bober Battle
The dApp was created by Project X. Hhampuz initially came to me on March 23rd with the idea of creating a “PvP Coin Flip Bot” on Telegram, with an Mvx wallet integration. From that, to the app there is today, Bober Battle, everything was shaped by us from smart contracts to backend, frontend, design, and final functionality.
Discounted Deal
When the initial deal took place, I offered them a huge discount for the creation of this app, since they were invested in Project X and in my eyes, wanted to work together for the better of their bags (Bober and Project X). The initial idea was substantially smaller than the final product we shaped up, but never asked to be paid for the extra.
Development & Maintenance
All extra development, maintenance, and over 100 subsequent changes on top of the initial deal were handled and paid for by Project X, not by Carmen or Hhampuz. The payment for all the "extras" was pushed back when a v2 of the app would be launched (which will never happen now).
No Code Ownership Agreement
There was never any agreement or discussion about them owning our code. The project was built based on our vision, development, and strategic direction, and if the code was requested at the beginning, the deal would have been way different, as they could remove us at any point, and also sell the app to others.
Hosting Setup
They offered hosting (“I have a free server, we can use that”). We've put in place the basics, as it was not ready for web hosting, it was just an empty server that we had to set up (for free…), but they repeatedly deleted all messages to avoid leaving any traceable proof of their extra requests for no good reason, until…
Sudden Ownership Claim
After the app launched and gained traction, Carmen suddenly claimed ownership, saying, “This is my product, I do what I want,” despite having no role in development, ongoing maintenance, or ownership of wallets, code, SCs.
Demanding Full Code & Removal of Project X
After a while, Carmen requested the full code and everything else related to Bober Battle, while explicitly saying she wants to remove Project X from anything related to Bober and Xoxno (remove our branding, remove Project X from Xoxno marketplace, give the code to someone else to continue development more “in-house”).
Attempt to Steal the App
In the meantime, we discovered that Mihai and Carmen tried to copy the code of the app while requesting “Audits” of the Smart Contracts to make sure everything was ok. We looked into this when the Bober Wheel testing was affected by a duplicated app (from our code) running in parallel, causing disruptions. They attempted to steal the app from us, both by request and by brute force.
Personal Attacks & Harassment
Carmen started making baseless accusations and personally attacking me and Bubu. She then blocked me from groups to prevent evidence collection. Mihai followed the same approach, escalating to personal insults and harassment.
Examples of their insults: “Scammer,” “gi*sy,” “j*et,” “re*ards”
In the past 2 weeks my old posts started getting random likes and retweets, in an attempt to get me banned from Twitter as well (just a gut feeling).
Linked to On-Chain Entities
This is not a direct attack on Mihai. Nobody is doubting his dev skills, only his morality. This is because of Carmen, and it reflected on Mihai because of their connection, which, on-chain, look more or less like the same person (OTC transfers, wallets, staking agencies, Bober, Xoxno roles, etc).
Demanding SC Dev Gas Fees (~4 EGLD): They even requested the Smart Contract developer gas fees, pretending they were the devs as well??
Demanding Wallets
Since DNA (our token) is linked to this game, handing over wallet access would expose us to unauthorized transactions or potential scams. This was never a problem until they wanted to remove us completely from Bober Battle.
Refusal to Pay for Development
Transferring the code to them would result in hundreds of hours of unpaid work for my team, a complete takeover of our product, and the removal of Project X from the app.
Two Fair Solutions We Proposed
1. Sign an NDA → They would get full access to the code, but they couldn’t steal or modify it without legal consequences.
2. Buyout Option → They could purchase the app outright, and we would remove ourselves entirely from the project.
They refused both.
Hurting Project X
Project X has been unverified on Xoxno. They threatened to remove Project X entirely from their “decentralized marketplace.” Carmen dumped her holdings on the community.
Coordinated Attacks
Carmen and Mihai are not acting alone. They have puppets, people heavily invested in Xoxno and Bober, who claim to be “community supporters” but are actually playing everything behind your back. These are the same people who bot launches, dump on the community, and pretend to be neutral and supportive, the same persons who do insider trading based on what is coming next (for example: Buy bober before a release, sell project x before the attacks, buy bober before a "big push")
I have proof for most of these claims, but sharing ss of DMs, its not really legal even on X, on top of that, I have way less time to waste than Mihai, who seems to have a screenshot of every telegram chat he ever had
They deleted our chats multiple times (which should have been a red flag for me, but at the time, I was naive enough to think that’s just how they are).
Now, I see why they kept deleting and banning me from groups for the past year, they needed to erase any records and use only parts of the conversation, with no context, in their advantage.
But here comes some questions
• Why did “Powered by Project X” suddenly become a problem only after Bober Battle started generating massive fees?
• Why did they demand the whole app ownership when it became successful, despite never asking for the code before?
• How can people working for them be so blinded by money to never ever ask themselves if what they are doing is right or wrong?
• How can they keep wanting to destroy MultiversX, while being some of the biggest validators / holders?
• Why did they duplicate the code from the beginning? Was this the plan? To steal our work, underpay, and then try to destroy us?
• Why so evil?
• What do these people try to achieve? Do they want the whole blockchain for themselves?
• Will this ever end?
Their recent paranoia and aggression toward everyone is further proof that the fun starts and ends when they want, how they want. Carmen and the puppets are trying to turn everyone against us, but, with the recent events, and the on-chain proofs, I’m not sure their plan will succeed this time.
I am probably the only one who “didn’t kneel in front of the princess”, and if Project X was small enough, we would have lost the battle before it even started. We are not small though, we are working for the ecosystem for more than 4 years, and we gathered a powerful community in Project X, which know us and trust us. We have more than 10 products live, on MultiversX.
The platform made over $300,000 in revenue, more than Project X raised.
If I wanted to do harm and scam, I would have kept the fees, at least after they started threatening us. But we are not scammers, despite what they and their puppets claim. All the fees were sent to their wallets, according to the deal (more than 50.000$ AFTER the shitshow started).
Final Statement: The End of Bober Battle
• Bober Battle will likely go offline until Mihai rebuilds it by himself.
• We will not release the Wheel on Bober Battle (sadly), and we will not get paid for the 1+ months of working on it.
• We will open-source both CoinFlip & WheelSpin so anyone can use them for their communities while we take the financial loss.
• The story with Project X & Bober ends here. But Carmen is far from done damaging the ecosystem for her own entertainment, with Mihai and the puppets backing her at every step (knowingly or unknowingly).
The Reality of Dealing with Them
If you ever think you won’t get scammed by “100k+ EGLD holders” as Mihai loves to describe himself and Carmen, think again.
Bonus
• We developed Saturn tracking for them, for free.
• We gave them countless marketing exposure through Project X, Titans, and Creators.
• I was in Bober management from day one, helping with everything, until they decided to exclude me.
• I made exactly $0 from Bober Battle and now, lost countless hours helping developing it.
And this is how they repay us.
You will probably see another idea which we pushed, after they relaunch it. To make the app a "hub" of similar games. An idea I presented to them before, but pushed back "after the release of wheelspin" (aka after the exclusion of Project X?) We'll see how that one goes.
There is so much more to say, but man… this feels horrible. I was so excited about this app and the potential it had. And now, because of it, I have to have even more sleepless nights fixing the damage done to Project X, because, once again, we acted in good faith without counting the red flags.
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