john hudson

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@Hotwifesophie05 Anything for you Sophie 😘

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@Hotwifesophie05 I think that’s what my wife is planning to do to me on Friday :p she’s been chatting all sorts of filth to me winding me up ahead of time

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama I’ve already responded to that. We won’t achieve full food security, but if we carry on the same trajectory, our ability to produce our own food becomes more undermined. The problem gets worse, not better, with inaction

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama I’d argue we had enough space before farms had to be sold off and turned into housing developments. Which brings me round to the original point; if the farmers aren’t supported, they sell off, and our food security issue becomes even worse

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama Depending on the level of crisis, that is a possibility, so would we not want to attempt to mitigate that as much as possible? Would you hope to save some money in case your house breaks and you need to repair it? We should keep some capability to produce our own food

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama And we should be supporting farmers to carry on what they’re doing

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama And for how long will we have that basic survival capability if the farmers are forced to sell their farms because they couldn’t save enough surplus that they can’t weather a bad season?

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama They make an okay wage, but then there’s the tax on leaving the farm to their family when they die. They aren’t given assistance in the event of poor harvest. They make an okay wage but aren’t offered assistance on the risks they take

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama In the event of a global catastrophe, our plans A,B and C to feed citizens shouldn’t be importing cheaper food. We should be able to produce it ourselves. We aren’t a farming state, we are not trying to ensure food security across the world. But we should at least do it here

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama We’re going round in circles and I see we won’t reach a consensus which is fine. You mentioned polish farmers etc, so this isn’t a “Britain problem” it is a global problem. We’re not trying to be a farming state, but we should have the ability to feed our own population

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama In the event of a crisis, if our only option was to import food, but now supply lines have broken down internationally, and we can’t do it ourselves, that cheap food we had would still become unaffordable

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama But now we’re changing the parameters of the discussion. Now we’re talking about affordability and could go off on a long conversation of how governments could make Local food affordable, lowering bills for people, energy costs etc. we have moved away from the original point

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama How dare those greedy farmer demand a fair paycheck for their labour, risks due to a poor harvest etc? You’re absolutely correct, if the farmers get a fair wage, other people will too, and then what? Absolute chaos. Imagine people being paid a fair wage in their country

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama Also, for the most part our farmers aren’t rich, they don’t have much liquidity. They are asset rich due to the cost of machinery, but by and large they’re not overly wealthy. They are squeezed heavily, I’m not against them being able to save money in case of a bad event

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

@ravncompensate @VeryBadLlama I agree, they are great benefits of globalism, until it it hits the fan. They’re perks of globalism, and shouldn’t be the default plan of food security in your country. Feed yourself first, and if you want to buy a dragon fruit after then go for it.

[john hudson @jonhdsn]

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