Jonny Anderson

listening to audiobooks while making things in my workshop or running

[Jonny Anderson @jonny_anderson]

@guitarmyy Im waiting for the CircuitCircuit shirt i bought on bandcamp last October. does this mean i may still have 21 years of waiting to go

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@rficwizard "Most people agree" + "It doesn't require any shared beliefs" = their current belief system already accommodates it.

Just means people believe their current views are bias towards liberty.

It can be used to support their current beliefs a more readily than any alternative.

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@rficwizard Sure, but I'll say your definition of a free society as one where a person rightly has whichever abilities the govt hasn't decided to outlaw for "good reason (criteria unknown)" is, to me anyway, less clearly persuasive of anything in particular even if more accepted

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@rficwizard That in a free society, unless an individual has done something that warrants the prohibition of some ability that person ought rightly retain that ability...

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@rficwizard For example your initial statements were readily interpreted as a statement of your beliefs about the proper orientation of govt with respect to just treatment of individuals, and how we should really be framing them... as follows

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@rficwizard But that is not what we have. We have a system where by default imigration is totally restricted, and permission must be granted.

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@rficwizard It would mean that by default, all people ought to be allowed to migrate freely, and only narrowly and with justification ought power be used to restrict an individual's ability.

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@rficwizard You are saying it is a useful way to change people's perspective with respect to the assumption that the default is *not allowed* and permission must be given.

I am applying it to a particular topic, imigration...

Would you say that it has altered your perspective?

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@rficwizard Please dont get me wrong, I agree with that sentiment globally.

I am simply saying that when this particular line of thinking gets mapped on real policy, even proponents of it seem to abandon it, as in immigration, they rationalize around it.

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@rficwizard So with respect to this particular example the whole reason that it's a topic of discussion is that people are looking to *Do* or *Change* or *Restrict* something.

They are looking for an active measure.

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@rficwizard "Should we prohibit people from owning ARs without a special permit"

"Should we allow people to own ARs so long as they get a special permit"

A lot of people specifically want to "prohibit". They see it as an active step to solve a perceived problem.

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@rficwizard The above is where I am really interested in understanding what you see as the important distinction...

They are functionally the same, and people love to prohibit things they hate...

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@rficwizard Put another way...

"Should we prohibit people from owning ARs without a special permit"

"Should we allow people to own ARs so long as they get a special permit"

Both are default disallowing and require permission, and frankly I think more anti-AR people would prefer the first.