To the Americans:
I've travelled all over the world. I've familiarized myself with many places, and met many people. And I'm a Canadian, although I’m privileged to reside once again in the States.
And here's something I've noticed, and it’s a key element of America's continuing greatness:
You bloody Americans value success, and you believe in its existence.
This is something that doesn't really happen anywhere else in the world. Even in other free democracies—the United Kingdom; Finland, Sweden, and Norway; Australia, New Zealand and Canada; Germany, France, and the Netherlands (great countries all)—a counterproductive cynicism too often reigns.
Success is equated with exploitation.
Ambition is looked upon with contempt.
This happens sometimes in the United States too—particularly among the miserable progressives, who confuse their resentment, ingratitude and unearned skepticism with wisdom.
But in your great country, by and large, striving is admired and success celebrated.
This means that more people strive and succeed in the US than anywhere else. And it's increasingly obvious. You remain stunningly more innovative and productive than any people anywhere else on the planet.
And so I say, as all should who are fortunate enough to live in the western world, let alone America:
Thank God for the United States.
Thank God for the wisdom of its founders.
Thank God for its faith in the free market and in the natural rights of man.
Happy birthday, you damn Yankees and Southerners.
Long may your admirable country dominate the world.
Long may your freedom and hope provide an example to those suffering everywhere at the hands of their malevolent states.
May your two and a half centuries of unparallelled success be just the beginning.
Your country is the light of the world, and the city on the hill.
Thank God for the USA.
Happy 250th.
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
@nicoraytruth It wasn't a flip. Plural marriage has never been the standard, but it's been commanded by God at certain times. The truths in the Proclamation on the Family have not nor will they change.
Darryn Peterson is 19.
Ace Bailey is 19.
Isaiah Collier is 21.
Cody Williams is 21.
Keyonte George is 22.
Brice Sensabaugh is 22.
Kyle Filipowski is 22.
Walker Kessler is 24.
Jaren Jackson Jr. is 26.
Lauri Markkanen is 29.
Utah Jazz are coming.
INSANE amount of young talent.
@farmingandJesus Polygamy is hard to understand even by faithful LDS members. The command in the 1800s for some early LDS members eas commanded by living prophets, not by looking at ancient scripture.
Is this meant to be an argument or just a list of things you think sound weird? 😂
"Mormons make stuff up"
*lists a slew of lies*
Let's get into it...
"Magic underwear"? That's the intellectual level we're operating at? Religious garments exist in numerous faiths. Calling them "magic underwear" isn't a refutation; it's playground mockery.
"Golden plates and a seer stone." Correct. Joseph Smith claimed revelation through unusual means. Christians believe God spoke through a burning bush, a donkey, dreams, visions, angels, and a resurrected corpse. If your standard is "sounds unusual," Christianity fails before Mormonism does.
"God was once a man" and "humans can become gods." You apparently don't know that deification is a historic Christian doctrine. The idea that humans can participate in divine life predates Mormonism by centuries. The disagreement is about the nature and extent of exaltation, not whether the concept exists.
"Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers." This is one of the favorite anti-Mormon talking points because it sounds shocking until you think about it for ten seconds. Traditional Christianity teaches Satan is a created being who derives his existence from God. LDS theology teaches Christ is the divine Son and Satan is a fallen being. The point isn't that they're equals. They aren't.
"No Trinity." Correct. Latter-day Saints reject the Nicene formulation. That's a theological disagreement, not evidence of fraud. You actually have to argue why the Nicene model is correct instead of pretending its truth is self-evident.
"Total apostasy." The New Testament repeatedly warns of apostasy, false teachers, corruption, and falling away. You can disagree with the LDS interpretation, but acting as if the idea appeared from nowhere only advertises ignorance of the texts.
"Kolob." The Book of Abraham doesn't say God lives on Kolob. Critics repeat this because they know most people won't check.
"Humans get their own planet." Not official doctrine. Again, critics repeat it because it gets laughs.
"Baptism for the dead." Paul literally mentions people being baptized for the dead in 1 Corinthians 15:29. You may reject the LDS interpretation, but the practice is rooted in a biblical text, not thin air.
Every religious worldview can be made to sound absurd through hostile wording.
"Christians believe in eating the body of their God - they're a cannibalistic death cult."
See how easy that is?
“True or not, the Book of Mormon is a powerful epic written on a grand scale with a host of characters, a narrative of human struggle and conflict, of divine intervention, heroic good and atrocious evil, of prophecy, morality, and law. Its narrative structure is complex. The Book of Mormon should rank among the great achievements of American literature, but it has never been accorded the status it deserves, since Mormons deny Joseph Smith’s authorship, and non-Mormons, dismissing the work as a fraud, have been more likely to ridicule than read it.”
— Daniel Walker Howe, What Hath God Wrought: The Transformation of America, 1815–1848 (Oxford University Press, 2007), p. 314. [Pulitzer Prize for History, 2008]
@farmingandJesus All humans are saved from death by Christ. All are saved from sin by Christ - and He asks that you covenant with him (baptism, eg.) to become who He wants you to be.
@Exmo2EO@farmingandJesus We believe faithful people baptized in the new testament go to "real heaven." (And calling the other kingdoms "fake heavens" is not a fair understanding. ). We believe every single person ever will have the opportunity to take upon them the baptismal covenant. Beautiful doctrine.
@Exmo2EO@farmingandJesus Baptism is required. By someone with authority. Someone like John the Baptist, the apostles, or anyone given the authority by apostles.
@farmingandJesus Joseph Smith has so many witnesses. It's incredible. Signed affidavits. Friends and Foes alike maintained their testimonies their entire life.
When you say I have to accept “the Nicene Creed” to be Christian, could you be more specific?
Do you mean the creed produced in A.D. 325 at a council convened by the Roman emperor Constantine, who was trying to settle the Arian controversy and preserve unity in his empire?
Or do you mean the version most Christians actually recite today, which comes from A.D. 381, when another Roman emperor, Theodosius I, convened the First Council of Constantinople to settle further disputes and more fully define the doctrine of the Holy Spirit?
Because that seems like a pretty important distinction.
One was created under Constantine, a Roman emperor with no priesthood authority, whose interest in Christianity was inseparable from his interest in imperial stability.
The other was expanded under Theodosius, another Roman emperor who used state power to enforce religious uniformity.
And somehow I’m supposed to believe that my faith in Jesus Christ is invalid unless I accept the theological conclusions of emperor-sponsored councils held centuries after Christ and His apostles?
You are free to trust those councils, led by rulers of the same empire that crucified Christ.
But please stop pretending that your post-biblical, politically entangled, imperial committee language is simply “biblical truth.”
And stop acting like you have the authority to decide who is and is not Christian based on a person’s willingness to pledge allegiance to Rome’s preferred definition of the Divine.