@latinizedlogos Because pursuing theosis with humility is all that matters outside the sacraments and repentance.
And the saints embody Theosis, speak from it, and teach us perfect wisdom.
All of them.
@latinizedlogos I have great respect for you. You’re very intelligent. Which is why I want to see you lay down every political pre-formation and just sit with the saints.
All of them. With nothing in the way. With humility.
@latinizedlogos Brother you’re smuggling in western theology.
Personal opinions do not apply to our saints.
Their opinions are inseparable from their nous.
What looks like opinion to you is an articulation of theoria
@latinizedlogos They spoke not as theology constructors but as articulators of encounter, from genuine holiness and knowledge of God by the spirit via theosis. That is categorically different, and far beyond you or I
You do not know your own faith if you believe what I said is ridiculous
@latinizedlogos They spoke not as theology constructors but as articulators of encounter, from genuine holiness and knowledge of God by the spirit via theosis. That is categorically different, and far beyond you or I
@latinizedlogos Every saint is to be received with total humility and obedience and that’s not piety olympics — that is just the way.
You cannot correct the saints — not for
your politics, not citing imprecision, not at all
@reformedroom that I can agree with brother.
Pursuit of Theosis to gain knowledge of god by encounter is the path, doing our best to understand the saints articulations of their knowledge by the same means along the way.
Hesychast tradition + humility on theological matters + obedience
@latinizedlogos The problem is that’s not humility — that’s the student marking the saint’s essay. Humility would be assuming the imprecision is yours, not Hilarion’s.
A New Martyr writing in revolutionary Russia wasn’t being inarticulate.
You just don’t like the word because it implicates you
@ZeynepZeyn86352@AdAstraVII@sacredchad_ig I’m not praying on turkeys downfall.
I’m hoping you come to know the details of the prophecy, so that when it comes to pass you might see clearly.
Truly I want the best for you my brother, even if you don’t believe me.
I think we can both agree on this
- let gods will be done
@ZeynepZeyn86352@AdAstraVII@sacredchad_ig I’m not arguing for war. I’m not cheering for Turkey’s fall. I’m pointing to a prophecy and asking you to take truth seriously.
What happens, happens by God’s will — not mine.
I just want you to know where truth lies when it does. ☦️
@HabemusMalleum Aulén named it that. He didn’t invent it.
The concept itself is in Irenaeus, Athanasius, Gregory of Nyssa, John Chrysostom, and the Paschal canon of John of Damascus.
Just learn from our saints what our theology is and is not, its really that simple
@HabemusMalleum The Troparion isn’t theological proposition — it’s the Church singing what she knows by encounter. Christus Victor isn’t a Western-style atonement theory. That’s the difference. Knowledge from God, held liturgically. Not human scholastic construction.
@ZeynepZeyn86352@AdAstraVII@sacredchad_ig Paisios said this 35 years ago. Your tree prophecy predates the Ottoman Empire.
The question is which prophecies are still being fulfilled.
And who’s standing where in the end ☦️