@MasterMaliq Have you ever validated the Quran? Don't JUST BELIEVE in the Quran blindly, verify if the claims in the Quran are true. You will discover you can't verify the Quran without first believing the Quran is true and that is circular and false.
@korrathetaymi Jesus said he gives Eternal life, and the dead will hear his voice and rise for Judgement. Jesus said God is his father, and he and the father are one. Try and be honest. Can a Muslim say these things and be a Muslim? Remember to be honest.
@Boss_Aleeyu Ok, so then I want you to say Allah is a FATHER. That is what Jesus said, and if he was a Muslim, then that means he called Allah is Father so then you can too.Go ahead and reply to this with Allah is my Father. If you can't because Allah is not a father then Jesus isn't Muslim
@David_Y3 One small problem with all that. Jesus said the Father was his God and Allah is not a Father so Jesus can not be a Muslim. No one can be a Muslim and call God his Father. Surah 19:90 is clear Allah is not a Father in ANY sense so the Quran is false for saying Jesus is a Muslim.
Here's a thought experiment I used to have as a Muslim: If the Islamic world really wanted to shake Christianity and settle the debate, what would it do?
Simple.
Fund massive archaeological excavations across ancient Arabia, especially around Medina, the city once known as Yathrib before Muhammad.
Why?
Because if Muhammad was restoring the original message of Moses, there should be evidence. Ancient Torah manuscripts.
Hebrew texts. Prophetic writings. Something that confirms the Quran's version of the biblical story. But here's the problem:
Every major manuscript tradition we possess today points the other direction. The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Masoretic Text, The Septuagint.
Ancient biblical manuscripts from across the world. They consistently preserve the same core storyline that existed long before the 7th century.
So, where is the Torah that matches the Quran? Where is the manuscript tradition that contains Muhammad's retellings of the prophets?
Where is the evidence? If Islam claims to confirm previous revelation, then there should be historical traces of that revelation.
But after centuries of archaeology and manuscript discoveries, no ancient Torah has surfaced that validates the Quran's unique claims. That's the question that started bothering me.
Because if a text existed that confirmed Muhammad's version of events, it would be one of the most important archaeological discoveries in human history.
And trust me:
If someone found it tomorrow, I'd be paying very close attention. Until then, evidence matters.
And claims need receipts.
@Kryptotajeer@eternalbread_ You assume Allah is God. Your false God not only allowed people to follow Jesus m, Allah deliberately tricked his own followers (who are Muslims according to the quran) into thinking Jesus died. Why did not this Allah just raise him up living in front of Jesus enemies? Think why?
As an ex-Muslim, Allah's crucifixion deception feels profoundly cruel:
Allah made it appear Jesus was crucified when He wasn’t (Quran 4:157).
But Christians didn’t just believe Jesus was God... they fell deeply in LOVE with Him.
Early Christians poured their hearts and souls into worshiping Jesus as their Savior, craving relationship with their true Creator. God watched it all… knowing it was built on an illusion.
Their hymns, prayers, art, and even martyrdom centered on a personal relationship with Jesus as Savior and Lord.
If Islam is correct, Allah not only allowed this heartfelt devotion, but actively caused the illusion behind it. For centuries, people poured their hearts into loving and worshiping Jesus based on something that never happened.
At death or judgment, countless faithful believers would discover that the Jesus they loved with all their hearts—the One whose sacrifice defined their lives—never actually did what they cherished him for. This feels like cosmic gaslighting.
All that love, devotion, and sacrifice — for nothing.
This isn’t how a good God treats sincere seekers.
The Quran has NOT been preserved dot for dot, letter for letter, or word for word. It has missing words, verses, chapters, and even different companions with different Quranic canons.
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@MasterMaliq Haddith say he hit Aisha. He allowed women to be beaten by there wives and the Quran surah 4:34 allows married women to be struck for fear of disobedience not even actual disobedience but the fear of it. Islam is the worst example of how to treat women.
@shafiekj@InspiringPhilos It does not just spread by the sword it also spreads by lying about what Islam is. If you have to lie to get people to believe in Islam then it is false to begin with.
@Kryptotajeer Nice try but Allah does not say he is debunking the trinity or the I Have a Son. Muhammad who wrote the Quran is stupid and thinks Allah cant have a son because there is no GODDESS to have sex with. You are adding to the text what you think it was supposed to say.
@InspiringPhilos When Muslims use this retarded argument for Muhammad in the Gospel they are inadvertently calling Jesus Allah because Jesus sends the comforter. Congrats Muslims you just admitted Jesus is your GOD.
Quran: the true followers of Jesus were made VICTORIOUS and UPPERMOST (S. 3:55/61:14)
Muslims: the true followers of Jesus were DEFEATED by Paul and Constantine, and the CORRUPTED false message was victorious and uppermost
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@General2464@kingmahdi313c@modban That's is so stupid. I said if you take put birth rates of Muslims then Islam is not growing fastest. You are the only religion I know of that counts a child just born as a convert to there religion. The child does not even have a choice which is why so many youths apostate.