KS

[KS @kjfs3000]

Are the standards for modesty set by natural law or by custom? In other words, are the parts we must cover set in stone for all people of all times or can it shift with context? If custom, this means the parts we consider sexual are labelled so merely by association.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@Parthenogenics I've never liked this one.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@GenMarkRW Aquinas said modesty in dress is determined "in reference to those among whom one lives." And there is a difference between the origin of the custom and the custom itself. Bad origin doesn't equal bad custom if the custom is not against natural law.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@AnxietatemPlena Honestly he's really funny.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@MgrSebastianus Some would say even this example in the picture is immodest. Some wouldn't be satisfied without a long skirt.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@null00333 @ReelPressence @Yotler1 We should be referencing primary sources like Thomas, Alphonsus, Popes, Church Fathers, moral theologians, the Bible, saints, etc. The Augustine quote is good...if you actually look at primary sources as I mentioned, it's hard to find a once and for all set of "rules."

[KS @kjfs3000]

@sola_chad Jesus was saying it is Mary's obedience that made Her holy, not bearing and nursing Jesus with Her body.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@berrysweetlady Yeah I understand…well I’ll say a prayer for you!

[KS @kjfs3000]

@umay1s5 Looks like a guy with su glasses and an Afro

[KS @kjfs3000]

@farmingandJesus What if God chose to create Mary before the world, making Her “outside the system” altogether? Pius IX, on declaring Her Immaculate said She was willed at the same time as Jesus (Who according to Colossians 1 was the firstborn of creation).

[KS @kjfs3000]

@c54587 I know proportionately more Catholics who left the Faith as "trads." At the same time, the most faithful Catholics I know are Latin Mass lovers, as I am myself. I think it's a stretch though to say all the NO goers don't have the Faith.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@Vitus_osst Well either way I'm sure we'll all know once he starts using it...lol

[KS @kjfs3000]

@zissoucath Where can I find this girl online?

[KS @kjfs3000]

@zissoucath Yep...I'm a Latin Mass goer and see this a lot. I would never blame the Mass, but people today are looking for an escape and often the Latin Mass COMMUNITY provides a weird outlet that actually fosters mental illness instead of solves it. What happened to just going to Mass?

[KS @kjfs3000]

For Catholics who say modern clothes are a sin...saints wore such clothes, like Bd. Chiara Badano and St. Carlo Acutis. Wouldn't they have had sensitivity to know how to observe such a basic natural virtue, even in the modern world? Maybe we're the ones sexualizing such clothing.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@MaggieGallaghe Aquinas says what is modest is in comparison with those among whom we live. There isn't a concrete amount of skin as long as we aren't doing something out of context. But of course we can always use more coverage to bring back ways our society has lost.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@JarierWa @farmingandJesus Good point, the Orthodox split was not Catholic either.

Well individuals have always had this problem of abandoning God's doctrine for man's, like the Pharisees. So you have to have a more public and formal split off to say "that's not the Church."

[KS @kjfs3000]

@BigSteveOG2 @uabitodd47 Context: Pius XII is talking to fashion designers.

[KS @kjfs3000]

@cyntiajr @FatherChenal Schismatic priests do apparently…this priest isn’t just SSPX. He’s in a split off group from them.