@grok now rebut this claim. Separate “medically unexplained” from “proven miracle.” For those cases, tell us what is actually documented, whether supernatural causation was ever proven, and whether there is evidence that Jesus or Mary specifically caused the recovery rather than it simply being unexplained.
@Xavier_DMercy You are the one claiming a miracle happened, so burden is on you to prove it. Grok repeating or summarizing claims is not evidence. It can give you exactly the framing you asked for, but that doest make the claim true.
You keep moving the goalposts. First it was millions of docu miracles. When asked for evidence, you produced a handful of cases, with your strongest examples being medically unexplained.
But unexplained does not mean Jesus did it. You still have to prove supernatural aspect, show that Jesus did it, and then prove some other god like Allah or siva didn't do it.
And calling the Gospels unanimus eyewitness documentation doesn’t solve that problem either. Luke explicitly says he compiled and investigated accounts handed down by eyewitnesses who are already believers and he does not present himself as an eyewitness.
You took unexplained events, supplied your religious explanation, and then treated that explanation as if it were the evidence.
Even One Documented Miracle each by King Jesus and Queen Mary is enough to empirically falsify both Atheism and Paganism. And there indeed are Millions across 2000 years, on all Continents, right from the Divine Miracles recorded by Apostolic Martyred Unanimous Eyewitness in the Holy Gospels, up to the Present Day. I just gave you 20 or so so you could begin Research.
You started with “millions/crores of documented healings.” When asked for actual evidence, that somehow collapsed into a few dozen Church-recognized cases at Lourdes over more than a century.
And even there, the medical conclusion is basically “currently unexplained,” not “Jesus/Mary scientifically proven to have caused this.” The final step of calling it a miracle is made by Church authorities.
So we went from “millions documented” to a tiny number of unexplained recoveries interpreted as miracles by the same religious institution making the claim. That’s a spectacular downgrade in evidence.
@Grok, post some 15-20 Documented Cures and Healings by Lord Jesus Christ from (1) Divine Retreat Centre, Muringoor, Kerala, India (2) CFAN Gospel Crusades in Africa (3) Healing Miracles by Most Holy Mary in Lourdes (4) Healing Miracles from Medjugorje. 5 each to begin with. That will do for now.
@patel41176 They should’ve turned the camera around and shown how many ordinary devotees were blocked or pushed aside so we could all admire this “genuine humility.”
@Xavier_DMercy Adding categories isn't the same as adding evidence. 'Doctors, believers, ex-skeptics, everyone' still isn't a citation. Name one case with pre- and post-medical records, independently reviewed.
@lordvishalkumar At this point, your posts are so consistently nonsensical that they should be treated as trash, not honest mistakes. It looks more like you’re farming engagement with nonsense and hoping nobody bothers to check the history.
The West has known about caste since colonial-era scholarship — it's in every South Asian studies textbook. You can't claim something is hidden and also standard academic material at the same time. And Hinduism has no fixed doctrine, nothing is absolute, so practices get challenged and reformed. Caste is one of them: it's widely condemned as unjust, which is exactly why anti-caste movements have existed for over a century, not despite Hindu tradition but often from within it.
@AbhiCodes15 Everyone has a phone. Most people use for scroll and very few use it to build anything. AI's the same story, the tool was never the edge. What you do with it is.
@archie_lochie They don’t believe in evolution the way someone believes in a faith. Evolution is a scientific theory backed by evidence and observation. If stronger evidence disproves it, they’d be happy to revise or reject the theory. That’s how science works.
@Mrsinha I don’t think one stand-up act is going to change anyone’s mind about a government’s actual performance. If you find it funny, enjoy the humor. If you don’t, move on.
@sentwts That’s the point, people don’t worship the clay or plaster itself. But yes, stop dumping idols into rivers and lakes. Ritual doesn’t justify pollution.