The fourth arrow is there for a reason.
Has been, and will be; because waste like this will gladly throw all us others into the grinder of their self serving ideology.
Smrt fašizmu, sloboda narodu.
@LowjackTakes@JetElectricEyes so you end up where if it gets kinda brought up but not focused on as an active topic for f/m, m/f and f/f type of content, people dont really think about it or shrug it off, maybe do some nominal expression of disproval; but the m/m gets a much more visceral reaction
@LowjackTakes@JetElectricEyes yeah, it opens up a *very* iffy topic where there isnt really a good position to argue about, but its something that massively underlined by many of the people arguing a very 'hypothetical own pov / self-insert' approach to most things they believe in/about
@shitlibtribal@copesint n.b. / p.s.
having a shadowrun game consistently over the past +5 years every weekend or two with the same team has given me a /LOT/ to discuss through and fine tune these arguments about, i could go /much/ more indepth on this, lmao
@shitlibtribal@copesint especially as those much more horrible futures offer us a way to vent the current/ongoing frustrations we have on a much 'larger' scale, but also get something cool and enjoyable/beneficial out of it - which is not feasible in our real life counterpart to it
@JetElectricEyes@copesint i think the most fascinating part to me is that a considerable amount of europe has kinda followed along and retrofitted those as well, maybe not to the most visually appealing, but still a survivably functional setup
except the uk and germany, who are just insane
@copesint (which kinda is the crux of my problem with the quoted types, as they do nothing to resolve those issues, they just shitstir and agitate the environment, driving nonproductive animosity at the forefront, harming any sort of civil-military service system that would benefit all)
@copesint (and yes, i know it existed prior, but only around that period did it emerge more as a concept where one could provide civil services in lieu of military ones, rather than being more along the lines of imprisonment or full on exemption)