@Skaruts@BasedFrosch@NovaNekura Again, don't give a crap about what's legal or not. If you put it up knowing full well it's gonna be stolen and itching to whine about legality, you really don't care about it being stolen. You only care because 'THATS MINE AND I SAID NO'.
@Skaruts@BasedFrosch@NovaNekura Look, you want to put a stop to it? Real simple. Don't put it online. There. fixed. Oh, but you don't get your clicks and views? Awwwww.
It's almost like this isn't a fair use case, it's about artist clout and you getting paid.
@Skaruts@NovaNekura But it's not a stock image. You're confusing and muddying the waters. It's an amalgamation based on the things it's learned. You know. EXACTLY the thing human beings do based on prior 'training'.
@Skaruts@NordicBoa@NovaNekura Second, artists ABSOLUTELY sell their learning projects ALL the time, and third if you're posting on the internet, expect your stuff to be used for things you might disagree with. That's just common sense.
@Skaruts@NordicBoa@NovaNekura Because you have this insane hatred of ai. Literally no difference between a human being stealing your shit and ai doing it. I'm not missing a point, I'm making one that you're ignoring because you think you're inherently better.
@callsign_144p@ANoNameXworker@MatMvB Honestly, I'll take whatever the better end result is. Capitalism doesn't care about your 'artistic soul'. It cares about end result. Is it under budget and meets the guidelines? Sounds good. Is it overpriced and still looks shit? No thanks.
@MatMvB@ANoNameXworker And I'm free to think those 'some' are stupid and biased, and that their idea means nothing to me because it's basically what hipsters did, being smug and opinionated.
@MatMvB@ZiggySpadeVA No. Disliking the PROCESS used to make it? Sure. Maybe. If you actually know. Maybe that person worked hours or days on that image. Maybe it's not all generative. You don't know. But you make the assumption you do and that their work means nothing because 'BUT AI!'
@MatMvB It's INCREDIBLY hypocritical. Changing your opinion after the fact because YOU DONT ACTUALLY KNOW, then stating 'oh, I know'.. that's DEFINITION hypocrisy.
@katy4congress To the person behind these social media accounts: why? Is it worth taking this abuse as a job to get paid by someone who's signed off on actively lying like this?
Just saying. It ain't worth the money man. 'good' politicians don't need to rely on character attacks.
@NordicBoa@Skaruts@NovaNekura Don't get me wrong, they deserve some respect for honing a skill, but to set them on a pedestal like this is kind of laughable.
@NordicBoa@Skaruts@NovaNekura ...you're really making artists into a class of 'they all suffer for their talent'? Like 90% of artists I've seen (except maybe the top 5%) are literally kiddos taking commissions, charging way too much for no professionalism because they haven't learned ethics.
@NordicBoa@Skaruts@NovaNekura Simple answer: No.
I'm the one editing, producing, doing the reworks. I'm the one who came up with the idea originally, and it has every bit as much originality as some of the artist slop I've seen over the years.
So my simple answer is no: I'll do what I want.
@ChilhoweePress@PA_Megacorp 'Hey, we're concerned about what the effects this tool might have are. Can we address those?' is a reasonable take. 'AI ART IS THEFT' is a reductive hot take pure and simple, and addresses no nuance or thought. Honestly thought these guys would do better.
@ChilhoweePress@PA_Megacorp I love how reactionary all these anti AI posts are. 'Oh no! I find myself suddenly NOT inundated with demands for my overpriced renditions of today's topic. MUH INDUSTRY!'
If they'd started from a point of concern for their job instead of rage about the tool I'd have understood
@PA_Megacorp@AzilieRyld Okay, first off, anytime someone says 'educate yourself'... Youve already lost the argument for being arrogant.
Second, don't care. Half the industry of media creation is corporations BUILT on theft of ideas. Probably more. Third, all artists steal from those before them.
@PA_Megacorp@ChilhoweePress ...because, y'know, it's not like you couldn't just embrace the tech and say 'hey, this is getting rid of the worst of my commissioners and leaving the folks who will actually pay my ridiculous prices once I'm a professional enough to understand my value and have skills.
@Skaruts@NovaNekura And my argument is used judicially it absolutely CAN be depending on the human labor put into the end product. It's a tool. Nothing more. I'm not saying we should hit 'generate' and immediately post on Spotify. Edits, reviews, changes, modifying the song/image. Sure.
@NordicBoa@Skaruts@NovaNekura Oh horseshit. Literally 90% of young artists learning is starting out tracing works they like. I never hear criticism there. 'oh, they're new! They're just learning!'
I would agree to some degree the training process was bullshit, but it's done. Baby meet bathwater.