@sillydilly19624@Gorilla64_egg Not that Ren's recent response video helped things either since title would suggest she was addressing the issues with her doc and similar but it ended up not really doing and combined with the tone of the video it does come off as her not taking the situation seriously at all.
@sillydilly19624@Gorilla64_egg Think the problem with this whole situation is as someone put it they're both the abuser and victim at the same time or something along those depending on if Ren or Zeal's actions are being emphasized a lot which doesn't really help either when both of them had a lot of issues.
@mewtile@Scr0bert_@ASmallSnowFox@RealSchlep Given based on what was Being said from Rubens side which again I will say he shouldn't have drawn it either way but it also should be noted if he was doing this repeatedly with them or other people and the general context that was provided does sound like it ended up settled.
@mewtile@Scr0bert_@ASmallSnowFox@RealSchlep Hear you but feel that same statement could also be applied to Spicy just as much since doing porn yourself at the age she was doing it is also illegal as well especially when it was done repeatly and in this sense legally they both would have got the boot
@Scr0bert_@mewtile@ASmallSnowFox@RealSchlep The context with that drawing if memory servies right was Ruben sim himself was a minor at the time and the drawing was done for trolling purposes since Spicy herself was drawing her avatar like that, not that it was a wise move on Rubens part to draw that in the first place.
@Sepphoris_VT@WhiteRoseArima Hell the label pro ai and anti ai it's self also adds more fuel to that fire since it invites one side is wrong and the other side is right kind of mentality regradless if they both have good points or arguements.
@Sepphoris_VT@WhiteRoseArima Going to be real it' goes both ways since even if you use a small amount of ai and stay in your own lane and wasn't being toxic about it you will get harassed or jumped regradless but at the same time people who are in full support aint helping by saying adapt or die
@ToxicChudArtist@ApegoOfficial I would say it's a mix of both subjective and objective depending on the parts of art you are emphasizing because if we are talking about general feels personally and emotionally then sure that is definitely a lot more opinion based then stuff like the items used by a creator.
@samtechcoded About it, then don't think that blacklist really makes sense at least to me because at that point it may want to make people be less honest about using it out of the sense that doing so will likely get them more grilled online less then if they were to be truthful about it.
@samtechcoded Isn't someone choosing to stop using Gen AI exactly the outcome anti-AI people should want?
To answer you're question it's more of a yes and no in the sense that yeah some people may want that but there's also a decent chance if you got blacklisted for honest and not being rude
@liboar@MultiHyphenArt Like if you make something with the goal of it being low quality and low effort then it's going to be slop regardless if AI or non AI tools was used quality/care wasn't the main focus so naturally any result based on that goal isn't going to look good or as good it should it be.
@liboar@MultiHyphenArt Not necessarily if its just pure prompting without any fine turning or your own touch and the goal specifically was to only make low effort stuff and similar then yeah it would count as slop in the same way someone who does content farm type stuff Would also count as slop.
@Drunkinho1@DoughnutsinNov Think they are saying this in the context of Fan art that specifically is being sold to others and not unpaid fan art because some companies like Nintendo is not okay with that sort of thing while another company might be more or less whatever about people doing that.
@Eggmiku_@GBNT1952@Craig25975044 That violated the Geneva convention which specifically was why I brought up the gassing part as not only was this done specifically on a neutral nation but also on the civilian population at large and generally seen history wise as a war crime.
@Eggmiku_@GBNT1952@Craig25975044 Again what makes those cities a warcrime in specific and not others even this same arguement could again be applied for cities like Addis Ababa, London, Warsaw and generally any city the allies and axis had bombed since those also targeted civilians some involving methods that
@Eggmiku_@GBNT1952@Craig25975044 Then how come Dresden and toyko are not considered this even though they also be collateral as Dresden for instance was serving as a major railroad and communication hub for the Germany forces on the eastern front and taking that out would be needed to help the soviets.
@Eggmiku_@GBNT1952@Craig25975044 The problem with saying they are a war crime is by this exact logic London, Addis Ababa, Rotterdam, Shangai and all these others Arial bombings would be considered warcrimes especially Addis Ababa as that one involved gassing civilians and yet that one and others are not viewed