alley-cats

創作神話とRPGのファンです。主にグローランサねたに反応します。 その他、神話、ゲーム全般、指輪物語、SFとかも好物です。

-- Rules make the world. Dice tell a story. --

[ふぇる／塚越冬弥 @feltk]

10月15日の発表内容は不明ですが、順当に考えればクラウドファンディング開始時期の告知、あたりかと。
DW旧版がクラシックD&Dを描写駆動型の方法論で掘り下げたのに対し、第2版は5Eとそこから派生した今のファンタジー冒険譚（アニメ化されたあれとか）に同じ切り口で迫ってます。成功を祈るばかり。

[ふぇる／塚越冬弥 @feltk]

「Beta v3 Available, Ranged Combat, Deadeye Deep Dive」
予告通り、Dungeon World第2版のベータ3が公開されました。3クラス（ドルイド、パラディン、レンジャー）の追加、財宝管理の簡素なルールあたりが中心。既存クラスはほぼ同じ。
で、10/15に新たな発表ありとのこと。
https://t.co/eHM6KnIikN

[alley-cats @lanbril]

こういうのが私の考えるところの old school.

[Sandy Petersen 🪔 @SandyofCthulhu]

The Tale of the Walrus People. This happened about 20 years ago in my Runequest roleplaying campaign and I feel it is a good sample of how my players surprised me.

First off, the campaign was taking place in a rather Viking-like area. The players were trying to re-colonize and establish a nation on a large island that had been denuded of its inhabitants due to a magical disaster. They needed all the allies they could get. One feature of the island was that because everyone had died in the disaster in a single night, it was really badly haunted, with ghosts, skeletons, zombies, and so forth roaming around at night bemoaning their fate. The party was working towards mollifying and putting the undead & spooks to rest, but they also started to work with the less-malign of these creatures. They even had a Island board of rulers that included a member of each type of undead horror. (The zombie delegate always voted for brains, which the players loved.)

Well they encountered a species of "mermaids" that I'd based off walruses. (None of that sexy stuff with Sandy as GM.) Anyway the walrus folk were friendly and wanted to make an alliance with the players. But they had a problem. You see a local island of vikings were raiding and killing them. They'd rush ashore, kill pups and anyone surprised, flense them, and return to their ship. While the walrus-men were strong, they were pretty awkward on land and had no real answer to missile weapons. They also couldn't board a ship at sea from down in the water. So they asked the party if they'd help squelch the vikings who were killing them. They'd help if the party could think of a plan.

SANDY'S EXPECTATION
The party would get on their ship (they had one, since they were Vikings too. Just they were "good" vikings who wouldn't murder walrus folk.) Then they'd go to battle the evil vikings and I'd have an exciting ship-to-ship battle climaxing in a boarding action. Yay and fun for all.

WHAT THE PLAYERS DID
The players looked at it logically. They said, "If we can get the enemy Vikings into the water, the Walrus men accompanying us will make short work of them, since they can swim really well, they're strong, and they have lances."

Then they said, "How can we get people to jump into the water?" And it hit them. "Bees!" So they went and rounded up a bunch of the wandering skeletons on the island, then went and found bee's hives and wasp nests and such and stuck them inside the skeleton's chest cavities. (For the more nasty stinging insects, they had zombies or mummies do the heavy labor.)

They then went to the beach where they predicted the enemy vikings would show up. When they did, the skeletons walked up to the beach, then they all opened their mouths and screamed and bees erupted out of their mouths and over the enemy ships. The bad vikings screamed and batted at the bees, and jumped overboard and the walruns men captured them all. Or killed the most egregious ones.

I had a gamemaster ask me why I didn't torpedo the players' plan somehow because it COMPLETELY SHORT-CIRCUITED mine. I told him that the players' plan was awesome and way better than mine. Who cares if I didn't get my ship-to-ship fight. I can do that some other day. But bees and skeletons? Brilliant stuff.

Anyway, when the party got back to their island, they decided to KEEP the bee hives inside the skeletons. The skeletons could walk around the fields, directed by beekeepers, so they were always in a good flowering area. Made for terrific honey output. They named it "Skelebee Farms" and crated their honey and shipped it all over the place. Their logo was a happy skull dripping in honey.

Later, when we'd retired those characters and were doing other things with new characters, every once in a while they'd find a barrel of Skelebee Farms honey and it was great nostalgia.

Anyway that's what it's like to play in a game with me. I give my players a LOT of leeway because it's more fun for everyone. You can see how they used the stuff I'd set up to create something new and cool beyond my imagination.

[alley-cats @lanbril]

個人的にはパッションは判定時のペナルティを無くして50％基準じゃなくて0％開始にして合計100%上限(特殊な魔術や英雄を除く)にすれば良いと思っています。そして判定時に状況へのマッチ度に合わせて0～50％程度のボーナスを与える。

[nayuta77 @nayuta77]

RQGのパッションがよろしくないのは総量規制がないから。
多数の高いパッションがあると優柔不断になる。
「結局お前どっちやねん」

「葛藤を表現」とか言ってられるのは2個か、せいぜい3個まで

[alley-cats @lanbril]

2番目に「勝てそうになければ逃げる」
最後に「逃げられなければ降伏する」を追加しよう
生き延びることが最優先だ（命より大事なものがかかってない限り）

[カシワのクマ @Wiz_Tonokuma]

ルーンクエストでの正しい戦闘
・戦闘が避けられないか交渉する（威嚇技能でビビらせる含む）
・殴られる前に射撃武器で牽制する（防御不可の矢弾を魔法射程の外から放つ）
・殴る前に魔法で強化（戦闘職は自前でバフ魔法を修得するのが嗜み）
・人事を尽くして天命を待つ（ダイスは清めておく）

[alley-cats @lanbril]

そして文字暗黒期じたいが後代の学者の誤謬ではないかという疑いがある（年代計算を間違ったせいで、特定の年代の文章が存在しないという勘違いをしたもの

[清元ヒロキ @hiroki_dorastor]

グローランサ年代記は文字暗黒期後にアーグラスのサガの南北本を統合したエネクサンダーの古文書をハーシャクス期の歴史学者グレッグ・スタフォードがサルベージしてる二重構造になってる

[alley-cats @lanbril]

RuneQuestで騎乗突撃後に駆け抜けできる条件は私がGMなら
・宣言フェイズで予め駆け抜けを宣言
・相手が徒歩(移動力の差が4以上)で接敵から離脱可能
・相手の反撃を受けて生き延びる
・ラウンドの残りの移動力に余裕がある
・地形的に直線で先へ進める
・貫通したら武器を手放す
とかになるかな

[alley-cats @lanbril]

@feltk おう、それですか
遊んだことはないのですが、ネットでは全部対応しようとした結果、ごちゃごちゃしてるという意見はよく見ます（どの方面から見ても中途半端でこれじゃないと言われてる感じ
キャンペーン向けでルールの段階的な導入とか改変とかがいるやつという意見も

[alley-cats @lanbril]

@feltk なるほど、リスト内容によってはめんどうそうですね。
一方で単純なら詳細参照するのはGMだけにしてプレイヤーのナラティブから勝手に適用でも良さそう

[alley-cats @lanbril]

@feltk 自分のテーブルで不要なルールは使わないってのが根付いてるので、その細かいやつが根幹のシステムに関わってなければ、ルール的には参考程度でGM判断だったりしないかな？

[alley-cats @lanbril]

英語のだと Gateway Bestiary
日本語訳されたのだと Call of Cthulhu
かな？ 共著とかもあるので良く覚えてない

[Sandy Petersen 🪔 @SandyofCthulhu]

Your First Sandy Experience

I am genuinely curious. And I bet the answer says a lot about how old you guys are.

Which creation of mine did you touch first?

Call of Cthulhu?
Doom?
Quake?
Age of Empires (any)
Halo Wars?
Cthulhu Wars? Or another board game.

I've been making games since 1980 and I'd like to know which door you came through.

[alley-cats @lanbril]

Glorantha の盗賊は基本的に魔術職じゃなくて技術職、盗賊ギルド(Lanbril)は基本的に平信者として所属して特殊スキルを教えてもらう場所だと思えば良いです。Lanbrilの入信者はリングの幹部なので滅多にいないし冒険者向きではありません。ということで Orlanth から魔術、Lanbril かスキルを得よう！

[alley-cats @lanbril]

@gachacomplete @AshinohaTW とりあえずすぐ出てくるのは The Fortunate Succession p.55 に 以下のような記述があります。
Seleris ruled one tribe at first, and slew all the other kings to become the Khan of Khans and rule over all the nomadic folks of Pent.

[alley-cats @lanbril]

@AshinohaTW @gachacomplete Sheng Seleris は Khan of Khans の称号をもっていますよ。

[alley-cats @lanbril]

まあOSR寄りと言っても詳細ルール無視とかは身内でやる時の話で、ルールやシナリオのテストプレイとかだとデザイナーの意図を知りたくてできるだけルール通りにやるし、コンベンションとかのルール紹介的な時もルール真面目に反映させるけど

[alley-cats @lanbril]

私はOSRよりの考え方をしてるのでルールが少ないのが好み。ただし例外があって常識外の特殊な世界を表現するルール、魔法や超科学や怪物や奇跡などを表すための詳しいルールが必要と考える。「大きな怪物」というだけではイメージが共有できないけど 「SIZ 30 で STR 28 」の怪物なら皆で共有できる

[リーチング・ムーン @TRPGspaceRMoon]

https://t.co/3GeNCUHCDi　 Lands of RuneQeust, Satar　10/14　発売予定です。※為替の変動によって価格が変動することがあります。

[alley-cats @lanbril]

@acurms ただし Lords of Terror は除く 😁

[alley-cats @lanbril]

@yelmalio @nayuta77 テスト・プレイ用のドラフトを見た限りだ現行のD&Dのようなラウンド処理に変更した以外には特に見るべきものも無かったので、最近のD&D勢の移行用の入門ルールとして以外には必要性は薄い気がする（OSR主義者の偏見込みの意見です)