@Kingdrak3_@Abdullah1155048@abdulafandii I thought you read Arabic. Anyways this report is narrated in many books. With the same text. But only one narration has an addition which only comes from a single narrator not found the other reports. That’s what it said. From the person also who narrated the report. Thats clear
@Kingdrak3_@Abdullah1155048@abdulafandii Again no response but I’ll answer you again. قال الامام البزار وهذا الحديث لا نعلم رواه عن الحكم بن عتيبة ، إلا سفيان بن حسين. There you go
@Kingdrak3_@Abdullah1155048@abdulafandii Yes. The real report is in sahih Muslim with the real narration w-out that addition. The other one has an addition which is from a narrator and I showed you the an early muhadith mentioning it. He said no other narrator narrated it except him and he is a mudalis. So it’s rejected
@SiriusXSimurgh You did tadlees on the verse. You agreed with me that the verse is for all those who were Muslims before and after conquest of Makkah. all. Meaning that the same people you hate were promised paradise.
You did tadlees again. Show me where the verse say it refers to a minority
@Kingdrak3_@Abdullah1155048@abdulafandii This is a shaadh Hadith, the original report is in sahih Muslim that says the sun goes down in prostration to Allah. This is an addition. Abu Bakr al bazar mentioned it. وهذا الحديث لا نعلم رواه عن الحكم بن عتيبة ، إلا سفيان بن حسين. And he is a mudalis. Not taken without -
@falseprofitmo@wardaddy76@abdulafandii Notice how you didn’t respond to anything I said 😂 the only retard is your fictional man god that got humiliated on a cross naked
@SiriusXSimurgh Yes sure
Al Hadid verses 9-10 promises all Sahaba paradise, those who believed before and after the conquest of Makkah
Then theres the verse of the tree. Allah is pleased with them. From them were abu Bakr and umar
@SiriusXSimurgh Is that honestly your argument? Brother, there are verses with the exact same phrase mentioned but without the minhum. This is not good, also I can show you a verse that says Allah is pleased with all Sahaba. Literally “all”
@Steadfast1One Notice how you didn’t respond to anything I said 🤣🤣😂 the only filth is the dying fictional man god that died on a stick in your bible . Try again
@falseprofitmo@wardaddy76@abdulafandii Are you dumb. I never said the chain is not sahih. I said the matn is weak and rejected. And thats what the scholars said. The chain of a Hadith can be sahih without the Hadith being sahih. Learn the difference
@Kingdrak3_@Abdullah1155048@abdulafandii You’re not. You’re going to a weak translation. Im telling you the correct correct translation of the verse and what ibn kathir who quotes the prophets companions and what they Said. And the Hadith is weak based upon the chain. I have scholars mentioning that too. Nice try
@Steadfast1One Why are you lookin on websites for evidence? 😂 nonetheless, this is also not evidence because this comes from an ashari which is not proof on Sunni Muslims (majority of Muslims) Try again
@Steadfast1One@NHH020@talkquran This is not a Hadith, it does not even have a chain. It’s a citation is which baseless and has no origin so it’s not evidence. It’s as if we’re gonna have to teach you i’tiqad.
@falseprofitmo@wardaddy76@abdulafandii The scholars mentioned it’s weakness and unreliable because of a narrator Im the chain. I said that, and no it’s not about falsehood or truthfulness, it’s about Whats narrated authenticly.
@falseprofitmo@wardaddy76@abdulafandii The Hadith is not authentic in matn. Already said that so thats not evidence. Already showed the scholars mentioned it to mean what I said. No scholar said whatever you said except your opinion. I don’t care about your opinion.
@Kingdrak3_@Abdullah1155048@abdulafandii Both appeared. one in reality and the other from his vision becuz the وجدها goes back to it and not them. Ibn kathir mentions أي : رأى الشمس في منظره تغرب في البحر المحيط ، وهذا شأن كل من انتهى إلى ساحله ، يراها كأنها تغرب فيه ، وهي لا تفارق الفلك الرابع الذي هي مثبتة. Try again