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NYU 🇨🇦🇮🇱🇺🇸 | The toughest part of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the war. The second toughest part is trying to have a conversation with antizionists

[Aiden @Lets_Get_Chai]

Yeah guys, let’s not conflate Jews living in their ancestral homeland since before Christianity or Islam existed with very real Zionist propaganda

[Rich Toronto @rich_toronto]

So people keep going back to “Israel invaded the land” and “Israel stole the land” and “Nakba-this” and “Nakba-that” and all sorts of other stories about why they justify Oct 7 and why Israel is in the wrong.

Let’s clear a few things up.

The land that is now Israel was lived in by both Muslims and Jews for a long time. If you want to get technical about who was there first, it was the Jews. How do we know this for a fact? Well, first of all, Jews have been around for about 2000 years longer than Muslims.

Not enough for you?

OK. How about the fact that the word “Israel” is mentioned in the Quran about 43 times. Palestine? Never once.

Jewish people have been around longer than Muslim people have – fact.

Jewish people were living in the place where Israel is much longer than Arabs have – also fact.

In about 1250 BCE, the Jewish people went to what was then called Canaan – where Israel sits today. This is when they escaped slavery in Egypt, and wandered the dessert for 40 years. 1250BCE. About 1860 years before the founding of Islam.

Fast forward to modern times. 1940s. Yes, there were both Arab-Muslims and Jews living on the land that is now called Israel. And yeah, there was fighting. On both sides.

After the Holocaust, the push for the Jewish people to have their own country intensified. During WWII, too many countries turned their backs on Jews. A Jewish homeland would ensure that Jews always had somewhere to go. There could never be another Holocaust, another ethnic cleansing of Jews.

Additionally, the UK was tired of dealing with all the fighting in the British Mandate of Palestine (what Israel was called before it was Israel), and wanted to wash their hands of it.

So what did they do?

They offered to split the land amongst the two groups living there. The Arab-Muslims and the Jews. Sounds fair, right? Each could have their own State, completely autonomous. Pretty good deal, wouldn’t you think?

I think it was a good deal. The Jews thought it was a good deal. Do you know who didn’t think it was a good deal? The Arab-Muslims. Do you know why? Because they didn’t want the Jews to have anything.

So the day after Israel became a nation, the Arabs attacked. 5 Arab nations attacked, in what would be known as the Arab-Israeli war.

Do you know what else it became known as? The Nakba. Nakba for catastrophe. Because they lost. The Arab world says it’s because Arabs were displaced. But they chose to be displaced. Because they chose not to accept their own nation. They left. They ran away. Because they thought the Jews would lose and they'd be able to go back.

The Arabs have been fighting ever since. At some point in time in the 1960s, the Arab-Muslims who were trying to claim Israel as theirs, started to refer to themselves as Palestinians.

Land has been offered. A Palestinian state has been offered. All that the Palestinians had to do, was accept Israel’s right to exist. To stop attacking and trying to destroy them.

Why don’t the Palestinians have their own State?

Because they refuse to. They refuse to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist.

Muslim nations in this world, take up 29.13 million square km.

Israel is 21,671 square km.

Jews have 0.1% of the land that Muslims have.

And according to the Radicalized Muslims, that’s too much.

This isn’t about the land.

This is about Radicalized Muslims not wanting Jews to exist.

[Jacob L @JacobL1994_]

The reason leftists deny Jewish peoplehood is because the Jewish experience blasts a giant hole in their worldview.

Leftism is the belief that any disparity in outcomes are due to oppression, because everyone is the same.

But then there’s us.

A people who’ve succeeded and thrived under some of the harshest conditions any people have ever been subjected to. Who have broken far larger enemies and restored our ancient language through our intelligence and sheer collective willpower.

Who restored our political independence in a massive war right after the worlds first and *only* global mechanized biological extermination killed a third of our population, and then kept and protected and grew that independence until, despite its size, it towered over its enemies in strength, wealth, science, and cultural output.

So if we could do all that despite having been oppressed, what does that say about other oppressed people who achieved far less?

Or achieved less despite never having been oppressed at all?

Thus, they NEED us to just be White people with a weird religion. They NEED to downplay what we’ve faced and overcome.

Because the alternative is to wonder if maybe what produces disparities in group outcomes cannot simply be reduced to oppression after all.

It might be something that really, really scares them to think about.

[Aiden @Lets_Get_Chai]

@CoreyWriting Unfortunately I think “waking up” is generous for someone who’s till can’t define Zionism.

It is at least interesting though, that far-left lunatics who hate Jews are now being cruel to far-left people who only hate 95% of Jews.

[Jews and Basketball @JewsnBasketball]

11 DAYS AFTER OCTOBER 7 HE WAS GENOCIDE JOE. I WILL NEVER GET OVER HOW INSANE EVERYONE ON THE LEFT WENT SINCE THAT DATE.

[Mat Nuclear @MatNuclear]

They really just tried to do 9/11 style attack on Israelis and it went wrong.

The Israeli passengers broke into the cockpit and overpowered the terrorist, how amazing.

Israel is not the one.

[Eitan Fischberger @EFischberger]

Understand the magnitude of what those Israeli passengers may have just prevented.

If the emerging reports are correct, an Omani pilot attempted to deliberately crash a passenger jet carrying roughly 180 people from Dubai to Tel Aviv, sending the aircraft into a terrifying plunge before Israelis on board overpowered and subdued him.

Had that plane gone down, regardless of where it crashed, this would not simply have been another aviation disaster.

It would have been a 9/11-scale terrorist attack involving an Emirati aircraft, Israeli civilians, an Omani pilot, Saudi airspace, and a region already engulfed in conflict.

Think about the military response that would have followed. Think about the countries that would have been dragged in. Think about the retaliatory chain reaction that would have been set in motion.

The consequences are genuinely impossible to calculate, but they would have been cataclysmic.

The Israelis who bravely took control of that situation did not merely save the lives of the people sitting beside them.

They may have prevented an event that would have rewritten the history of the Middle East, reverberated across the world, and cost an unimaginable number of lives.

There are moments when ordinary people, in the span of a few terrifying minutes, stand between the world as it is and a world permanently changed by catastrophe.

This may have been one of them.

[1611 Populist @KJVPopulist]

Probably the best PR Jews have ever gotten is the fact that their biggest ops are all the most retarded people on the planet

[Emily Schrader - אמילי שריידר امیلی شریدر @emilykschrader]

If you are only “concerned” about Gaza, you might just be a racist (or ignorant).

[Yehuda Teitelbaum @chalavyishmael]

Imagine looking at 2,000 years of people inventing reasons to hate Jews, recognizing that all of those people were hateful idiots, and then deciding that you, finally, are the one who discovered the legitimate reason to hate Jews.

You are not the exception.

You are the rule.

[Aiden @Lets_Get_Chai]

@OwenShroyer1776 Germany looked pretty similar in the 1940’s after making the same mistake.

[Aiden @Lets_Get_Chai]

@perturbulents @kel93934 @PoliticalJewTT Have you considered that maybe you don’t actually know what Zionism is?

[Max 📟 @MaxNordau]

Remember that all of these people are proudly genocidal, and their only regret about October 7 is that it failed.

[Aiden @Lets_Get_Chai]

@HillelNeuer We already knew she was pro-rape. At this point, it’s the standard political position for the pro-Hamas freaks

[Prof. Math & CS @Zeev81309559]

‼️ Brilliant

[Nick Matau @nick_matau]

This Anti-Israel dude told me "the language wasn't called Hebrew... it was called 'Iv-ritt'" and then he storms off after getting EMBARRASSED 😂

Fyi, the Hebrew word for 'Hebrew' is Ivrit (עברית) 😂

[Ted S @ClearReason]

Nearly 2 million Muslims live in Israel.

Fewer than 10,000 Jews remain in the entire Arab world, down from roughly 850,000 at its peak.

Yet Israel is the country accused of apartheid.

[Normal Gay Psychiatrist @NormalGayPsych]

I’m gay.
I don’t hate Muslims. I don’t want anyone’s rights taken away.
But I’m done pretending.
When surveys show large majorities in many Muslim-majority countries still support the death penalty for homosexuality… that’s not “phobia.” That’s reality.
When progressive activists will cancel a gay person for noticing that, but stay silent about actual theocracies that throw us off roofs… that’s not “allyship.” That’s cowardice.
Woke ideology tells me my sexuality is a political identity first and a personal reality second.
It tells me I must celebrate every culture except the one that produced the liberal societies where I can actually live openly.
I’m not “far-right” for wanting the same freedom in London or Toronto that I already have.
I’m not a bigot for refusing to import the attitudes that would put me in a noose.
Normal gay people exist.
We just want to live our lives without the sermons — from either the mosque or the campus.
Enough.

[Drew Pavlou 🇦🇺🇺🇸🇺🇦🇹🇼 @DrewPavlou]

This guy just attacked an LGBT pride parade in Berlin

If the attacker had been a white far right guy it would be the number one news on the planet right now but cause his name is Abdul it’s just another Tuesday in Europe

[Aiden @Lets_Get_Chai]

@BriannaWu This is actually just them rehearsing for the 2032 DNC.

[Aiden @Lets_Get_Chai]

@MatNuclear Not the first time an antisemitic public figure had to stop short of taking down Israel because they also happen to be a rapist