@SPDR538@RavensOfAeneas@uuindouu19925@holland_tom Yeah my bad I got totally mixed up after work Ima be real (although Carthage, by nature, tended to be a melting pot due to the seafaring ways)
I always forget about the ptolemaic dynasty, most of my reading on Egypt is on the 18th/19th dynasties
@SPDR538@RavensOfAeneas@uuindouu19925@holland_tom 1. Helen of Troy wasn't Greek, she was... Trojan. Which is in modern day turkey.
2. Nubia operated as a trade pathway between sub-saharan Africa and the Mediterranean, we know for a fact it was
Hannibal and Cleopatra were north African. I don't know who the "they" is
@oulosP@Willo290592@Chilledcoffee2 For reference, I've read multiple different translations of the Odyssey - I took a lovely class on the classics in college. Wrote my paper on the mythical telling of the founding of Carthage as a claim of political legitimacy
@oulosP@Willo290592@Chilledcoffee2 I mean again, this is a determination you can only make after seeing the final film. Trailer footage doesn't always match up with the film, it's pieced together by a different editor for a different purpose.
Give it a watch and if it sucks it sucks, but I don't think it'll suck
@oulosP@Willo290592@Chilledcoffee2 Then it's a relatively minor change. Maybe the tone or pacing of the film is improved by having more of a fight there rather than rocks in the harbor. I don't think that's particularly disqualifying or outrageous to modify to make a good film.
@oulosP@Willo290592@Chilledcoffee2 Hell, my favorite adaptation skips them entirely! (O brother where art thou) Stories like this get shifted to fit the medium they're being adapted into
@oulosP@Willo290592@Chilledcoffee2 Except for the part of the story that has 3 members of his crew scout the island
On land.
The purpose the encounter serves in the narrative is to take out most of his fleet and crew. I can live with a tweak to the "how" in service of a well made film.
@oulosP@Willo290592@Chilledcoffee2 From the limited footage we have, they look pretty damn big and nasty, But again, the movie isn't out! It's pretty bad faith to nitpick an interpretation *before it even releases*
@RavensOfAeneas@uuindouu19925@holland_tom I watched the trailer. I saw it before a 70mm showing of Project Hail Mary. It seems like a (reasonably) straightforward retelling
@RavensOfAeneas@uuindouu19925@holland_tom I'll bite- what in that trailer was "attacking European identity"
Did Tom Holland turn to camera and say "man I really hate white people" or something?
@RavensOfAeneas@uuindouu19925@holland_tom the Greeks into a broad cultural group, then you would probably use the term "Mediterranean" identity rather than European, because that would be accurate.
For someone who whines about the "tenets of Western civilization" it's clear you know very little about how civilization