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It's Cleavin' Time!

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@MCCwraith @kris6749 @TaraBull Democrats want your guns, but they let people run around with dangerous explosive and incendiaries?

The logic-Olympics you employ must be exhilarating.

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@kris6749 @TaraBull No.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews Adding more opinions doesn't make something true...

How does public distrust establish that widespread fraud occurred? That's evidence of public opinion, not evidence of election fraud.

Show evidence of widespread illegal votes/fraud... not hypotheticals/opinions.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews You're substituting assumptions for evidence.

Different election policies don't establish fraud; you're inferring intent before proving the fraud you're alleging.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews Imagine someone said: "If you oppose installing cameras in every room of your house, you must be hiding a crime."

Most people would reject that reasoning... Opposing a particular safeguard isn't, by itself, evidence that wrongdoing occurred.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews You're replacing evidence with assumptions: "They oppose X, therefore they must be cheating." That's not how evidence works. Show proof of widespread fraud, not speculation.

Circular logic: anyone opposing a law you support is admitting guilt.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews You're still arguing what could happen, not what has happened.

Outdated voter rolls aren't evidence of fraudulent votes, and lacking universal voter ID isn't evidence of widespread fraud.

Where's the evidence that outcome-changing fraud actually occurred? Still waiting.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews Conflating voter rolls w/ ballots cast.

An outdated registration isn't evidence of an illegal vote. Every state removes inactive, deceased, & dupe regs.

Show evidence those records produced widespread, outcome-changing fraud; which amid topic shifts, still hasn't occurred.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

I.E. - this is a largely inflated issue, as previously stated.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews Support for voter ID isn't evidence of widespread fraud.

You can argue for stricter election laws without accusing millions of people of cheating; especially when it's baseless conjecture.

What's the evidence Democrats stole a presidential election?

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews "We can't prove it didn't happen" isn't evidence that it did.

If Democrats were cheating at the scale you claim, investigations, prosecutions, and audits would reflect it... again, they don't... across administrations and decades; for either party, to be most fair/clear.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews Voter fraud is a largely inflated issue, as previously stated.

If either party were cheating at scale, investigations & convictions would show it... they don't.

Audits & recounts have repeatedly found no outcome-changing fraud in presidential elections.

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@steve_dekker @lynnsylouise @in2spirits @FoxNews You're mixing policy preferences with accusations of criminal conduct.

Voter ID already exists in more than 30 states. Polls showing support for voter ID doesn't prove widespread fraud or that opponents support cheating; these are separate claims.

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@ThomasC77041192 @t_dwtd @jaxirl No good rogue gets caught by this.

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@Fightinibis71 @steve_dekker @in2spirits @FoxNews they didn't find evidence that the outcome was changed by fraud.

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@Fightinibis71 @steve_dekker @in2spirits @FoxNews Which state are you referring to? Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, & others all had different legal issues. "States changed election laws w/o legislatures" is too broad to evaluate w/o specifics, & even where courts found procedural issues...

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@steve_dekker @in2spirits @FoxNews Or worry*

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@steve_dekker @in2spirits @FoxNews And none of that is still proposed or already in place if the change occurred, but regardless neither a Republican or Democrat administration conducting investigations for 30 years has produced evidence to warrant concern.

Speculate or sorry needlessly to your heart's content.

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@steve_dekker @in2spirits @FoxNews It equates to roughly 1 allegation... Per state.... Per year... With how infrequently and insubstantial it occurs.

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@steve_dekker @in2spirits @FoxNews Even then 491 cases between 2000-2012, out of more than >150m votes mailed in that window.

0.0002-0.0003%, being the rate of occurrence.

It's a mostly non-issue being grossly and distractingly over dramatized.

Heritage Foundation found even less absentee fraud.