i feel like after listening to jungwons clip and talking to one of my friends from Korea i feel the need to say something..
he said: 그런 것 때문에 엔진들이 싸우는 게 보기가 좋지 않다. 솔직히 공연에도 방해가 된다.
“Because of things like that, seeing ENGENEs fight isn’t nice. Honestly, it also interferes with the performance.”
because 보기가 좋지 않다 is a way of saying
“It’s unpleasant to see.”
NOT
“I hate ot7.”
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who encourage those fights as not being fans.”
조장하다
Means „provoke“/ „stir up“
He’s NOT saying
“Everyone who disagrees.”
He’s most likely specifically referring to people he believes are actively fueling conflict.
Given the timing after the Lima concert where the physical altercations happened and the wording he chose, it’s reasonable to interpret his criticism as being directed toward people who were escalating and provoking conflict. (Both sides!)
앞으로 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들은 팬이 아닌 걸로 생각하려고 한다.
“From now on, I’m going to think of people who incite/provoke those kinds of fights as not fans.”
The part 그런 분쟁을 조장하는 분들. (those who promote such disputes)
He did NOT say:
-People who believe ENHYPEN is 7 are fake fans.
-People who say the ot7 fanchant are fake fans.
-Anyone who misses the previous ENHYPEN is a fake fan.
Those sentences simply never left his mouth.
he used the verb 조장하다, which means:
to provoke/stir up/encourage conflict/fights- so grammatically, the main thing of his criticism is people who are provoking fights, not people holding a particular feeling/opinion.
where the disagreement comes from is the sentence:
‘Enhypen is 7’이라는 말은 우리끼리 싸우라는 이야기다.
“ENHYPEN is 7’ is a statement that tells us to fight among ourselves.”
Some interpret this as:
“Therefore, anyone who says ENHYPEN is 7 is provoking conflict.”
Others interpret it as:
“He’s talking about people using that slogan in ways that create fights.”
That extra connection people made is an interpretation..
His main focus was on the fighting:
The repeated topic was conflict, not simple opinions.
So it turns out people were FIGHTING at the Peru concert
That explains why Jungwon had to say whatever he said on his live
Guys how many times will we have to tell you to STOP FIGHTING AMONG YOURSELF
The only people we should be fighting are HYBE AND BELIFT not engenes
I understand if some of you feel like this is the end.
Personally, I don’t. I truly believe this is just a setback, not the end of the story. I still believe we’ll see all seven together again very soon. That’s what I choose to believe. ++
So in the tarot reading for enhypen and heeseung.
I got DEATH
Now don't be scared.
This card shows the closure of a chapter
Meaning the hardships will soon be over the death of this misery for all will take place. It will end in positivity 🍀
I’m seeing people stopped doom posting and started talking about the boycott again
That’s good guys
Keep the good work
We’re all in this together
We can do it
Keep fighting
Take a break if needed to come back stronger
“company suggested” “company doesn't want that” “company did this” “company did that” company company company, why always it's “company?” why? Why everytime they address something it always include the “company?” I'm sick of this company oh god
if the members had not shown any ot7 signs or showed less signs then i would have considered moving on after jungwon's live, but now it's not just belift who is giving mixed signals, it's the seven of them too
we pushed the company past its limits. which led to an innocent member speaking up about a mess they didn’t create. let’s continue to push harder, we’re almost there engene. let’s stick together 🫶🏻
4 fucking months, are you kidding me? 4 month of all this mess? Company should've done it on 11th march and let em talk about this so that way, we didn't had to do all of this, even when engenes protested in person, they didn't let the members speak, but out of nowhere today?