lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞

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[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

i think enough social media today, alias gue pusong banget baca tl😭🙏

[Semesta @katakansemesta]

Plli itu ga salah, they have been trying to saying this dari awal. Tp selalu tenggelam gitu aja.

All Plli want is pdvv make a clear statement, addressing their fault and apologise.

Remember, disini @PANDAVVA_ID berada di pihak yg salah. Mereka harus ditegur, harus minta maaf.

[athaa🦀 @thaanderstorm]

Bukan cuma oshi kamu yang berjuang dan mulai dari nol. Bias ku juga ngelewatin suka duka yang manakala saat itu mereka gak bisa tanggung sendirian. Itulah gunanya fans, mendukung, menegur jika mereka salah. Bukan berpihak seolah mereka adalah Tuhan.

[ｒｉｚａ🍁 @rizayapz]

Bikin gw mikir:

pada akhirnya pdvv ini sebenarnya ide staff atau ide ladder? Kok seolah disetir oleh staff yg somehow sak karep e dhewe.

(Note: diucapkan dengan bodoh dan ketidaktahuan karena gw baru 2 bulan di fandom. Awas aja lu semua ngatain gw.)

[maddy @maddyissues_]

Ingat budaya plli bukan kepancing, tp budaya kita adalah mengisi gform

[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

NAH BENERRR, aku pas nonton mereka yg cover tuh kirain bukan lagu cover debut😃

[Yara || Plave @Leader_NamYejun]

Pandavva urutannya kebalik, harusnya debut pake lagu sendiri dulu. Terus cover putv yang udah di remake sesuai dengan warna musik pandavva buat narik attention. Rilis deh lagu tema summer mereka sendiri, bisa deh buat merch sendiri tanpa embel embel putv 😌😌

[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

sekalinya join jdi fans vtuber banyak banget masalahnya ya allah...

[Sen☆ sunsetday | Rest dlu @scarmamouche]

Tau gak apa dampak dari klarif resmi yg diundur ini?
1. TL makin chaos, makin banyak dt, makin banyak yg rest, makin banyak yg numpang hate
2. Bday bima tenggelam, atau emg sengaja dijadiin tumbal
3. Cover NBTE yudis 100k, ga ada yg tau kan?
4. Diskursus makin melebar

[an @mysticartea]

kata gue sih, cepetan speak up benahin permasalahan ip-ip ini. what if vlast beneran sued lu terus disuruh denda PAKE MATA DUIT WON?? ANJIRRRRR APA KAGAK BERABE….COBA LU LIHAT RATE WON SEKARANG CUY 😭😭😭 gue ngomong gini demi kebaikan kalian di perekonomian yang maha dahsyat ni

[LuLuni ✨ @Lu_Lunivers_0]

Gue naikin lagi.

Oyy!!! Otak di pakek!!!
Itu lewat lagi akun plli kena DT di tellonya.

Bodoh jgn di pelihara.
Biarin mereka speak up karna itu Valid! Orang cuma minta kejelasan dan permintaan Maaf di katai mempetkeruh.

Dan sekali lagi, dsini PANDAVVA juga udah jls Salah.

[soh ࣪ ༘⋆ 🫍 • inactive @heyitsoh]

@PANDAVVA_ID sebagai pelaku industri kreatif seharusnya sama-sama memahami bahwa orisinalitas dan hak cipta adalah fondasi dari sebuah karya. Apa yang terjadi tidak bisa begitu saja dibenarkan, apalagi dibiarkan berlalu tanpa penyelesaian yang jelas. Ayo kita terima bahwa selama ini memang ada gajah di dalam ruangan.

Kalau memang [seandainya] sudah ada komunikasi atau pernyataan resmi yang membuat kedua belah pihak sama-sama clear, sampaikan kepada publik.

Namun jika memang belum ada, maka buatlah.

Karena ada pihak yang terdampak dari semua area abu-abu yang belum pernah benar-benar diselesaikan. Situasi ini kembali mencuat justru ketika kalian sedang berusaha menjaga sesuatu yang juga kalian anggap sebagai karya dan IP milik kalian.

Jika menurut kalian menunda pengungkapan adalah pilihan demi the greater good, maka seharusnya kalian juga tidak melampirkan atau mengklaim sesuatu yang bersifat paten. Sebab pada akhirnya, tindakan tersebut justru bertentangan dengan prinsip perlindungan kekayaan intelektual yang ingin kalian tegakkan.

Speak up. Apologize properly.

Pastikan permintaan maaf benar-benar tersampaikan kepada pihak yang dirugikan, bukan hanya kepada publik.

Saya percaya kalian semua orang dewasa yang paham mengenai resiko permasalahan ini akan kian melebar, semakin lama kalian menundanya.

[filoaa🐈‍⬛🖤 @filoaaaaa]

@129yej Bukan kak, plave terkenal di indo itu karena komplikasi glitch nya, aku stan plave karena itu, Kamu pernah liat alien lari sambil terbang ngga kak? ngga kan? Nah plave ada tuh yg kayak gitu

[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

@129yej WOI THEY'RE ACTUALLY FAMOUS???!? gweh yg tau pndvv karna mereka cover plave bi laik : 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[S @Senisasines]

Imo, this discussion is getting unnecessarily broad. We do not need Minecraft, Spaceballs, game streaming, parody, or the entire VTuber industry to understand why PLLI are upset with all elements of PANDAVVA.

Just look at the actual sequence of events: PANDAVVA covered PLAVE’s song “Pump Up The Volume!” Then, after already creating that very obvious association with PLAVE’s song, PANDAVVA released commercial debut merchandise prominently using “PUMP UP THE VOLUME!” as its tagline.

That context matters. If PANDAVVA had never covered PLAVE’s song and independently released merchandise saying “Pump Up The Volume,” then sure, the argument that it is a common phrase would be much stronger. Nobody is saying PLAVE automatically owns every possible use of those words.

But that is not what happened here. The prior cover creates an obvious association with PLAVE’s song. So reducing the issue to “commercialization inspired by someone else’s work” leaves out the exact reason people made the connection in the first place.

And comparing the merchandise to monetizing a cover does not really answer the criticism either. If PANDAVVA monetizes their PLAVE cover through the appropriate licensing or revenue sharing system, that is one thing. It is explicitly presented as a cover of PLAVE’s work, with PLAVE acknowledged as the original artist.

Using wording already associated with the song you covered as branding for a separate commercial product you are selling is a different situation.

Does that automatically mean PANDAVVA committed copyright or trademark infringement? No. Short phrases and song titles are complicated from an IP perspective, and whether this actually constitutes infringement would need to be established separately.

But that is exactly why I think focusing only on whether it is technically illegal misses a large part of PLLI’s criticism.

This is also about acknowledgement, accountability, and commercial etiquette!

From PLLI’s perspective, this did not feel like one random misunderstanding that appeared out of nowhere. Their frustration is basically: How many times do concerns have to be raised before someone actually acknowledges them? Why does the issue have to become this big before you finally speak up?

That kind of frustration usually does not come from the phrase itself. It comes from the feeling that the concern was raised, dismissed, minimized, or ignored until the issue became too big to avoid.

And the argument that “only the IP owner has legal standing, not the fans” does not really answer this.

Sure, PLLI are not VLAST. Fans cannot personally determine in a legal sense that PANDAVVA committed copyright infringement.But fans can absolutely question and criticize a creator for commercially using something associated with an artist they support. Those are two different things.

tbh, this is probably the easiest part PANDAVVA could have addressed: just acknowledge that you may have handled it badly and apologize.
Simply say:
“We understand why using ‘Pump Up The Volume!’ for commercial merchandise after covering PLAVE’s song created concern. We should have considered that association more carefully, and WE ARE SORRY.”
That is very different from admitting legal liability. Case closed.

And if it really took the controversy becoming this big before PANDAVVA finally addressed it, then PLLI’s frustration is not difficult to understand.

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And you! Yes you! the famous final stage of winning an argument: sending death threats. Congratulations, you definitely showed everyone who the problem is!

[LuLuni ✨ @Lu_Lunivers_0]

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[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

MAU AYEL GONDRONG😭🙏

[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

Ini ngapa fandom fandom gue berantem mulu ya?? Bisikin plss ada apaa aku baru bangunn #pandavvarna

[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

@rafayelpainter Lah makin panas nanti, suhu tubuhku panas soalnya

[lily|minor DNI 🔞🔞 @llillthings]

Omaigat banyak sekali anabul masdew, jadi pengen jadiin suami

[☘ @nijiiku]

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