@Buffalo_Bill_91@KevinCastley@historyinmemes Who ‘s they? Today everyone gets left behind, so the CEOs can have their million dollar bonuses but yeah the ‘they’ you speak of are the problem. Meanwhile, you were the they. How’s 1st place at the bottom working out for you?
@Stephen100m@DarrigoMelanie Then don’t take the job. Ridiculous excusing this. Pretend it’s a democratic president doing what Trump does. You’ll get there!
@Zack_magaig Convinced the very people exploited by him, and the other billionaires, that the billionaires are their friends and should be worshipped. Astonishing!
They never do. Read The Morning After, by Chantal Hebert and Jean Lapierre. Twenty years after the 95 referendum, the major players *still* hadn’t figured out what they would have done in the event of a yes vote. It was all just bluff and improv.
But anyone who does try to game the thing out with any rigour pretty quickly comes to the conclusion that it can’t be done: not unilaterally/illegally, and not by negotiation/constitutionally.
That needs to be communicated to people. But what needs to be communicated even more is that the whole enterprise is illegitimate; that there is not, and cannot be, any such thing as a right to secede from a democratic country (which is why virtually no democratic country recognizes such a right); that threatening to do so to blackmail your fellow Canadians is as morally bankrupt as it is practically futile; that the attempt to invoke democratic principle in its defence is bogus — you cannot vote to help yourself to something that isn’t yours, namely the territory of Canada — while the right of self determination simply folds in on itself: if Albertans or Quebecers have a right to self determination, do Edmontonians or Montrealers? For that matter, do Canadians?
Or is the proposition that the vast majority of Canadians must simply stand mute while their country, which tens of millions have built over several centuries, is blown apart by a single vote on a single day by a small fraction of the population?
Even if either Alberta or Quebec had been sovereign states prior to entering the federation, that would not hold water: once you’ve dissolved your sovereignty in the larger entity, you can’t reconstitute it. It no longer exists. There’s nothing to reconstitute it with.
But it’s just gaga to make such claims with regard to a province that, like Alberta, was itself the creation of an Act of the Parliament of Canada, or like Quebec, of the Parliament of Great Britain — and then only the relatively minor rump that was carved out of the pre-existing Province of Canada at Confederation. Two thirds of the present-day territory of the province of Quebec was added after Confederation — again, by acts of the Parliament of Canada.
So there’s no actual likelihood of Canada breaking up, even if there is a referendum in either or both provinces, and even in the vanishingly unlikely event that either or both of them managed to win a “clear majority” on a “clear question.” What is possible is that either or both of them might land themselves in a ruinous, divisive, and possibly violent mess, whose costs would mostly be borne by their own citizens.
But we do not make that prospect more likely by rushing to make offers to dissuade them from leaving or going to great lengths to show “the federation works.” The committed hardliners regard such offers with contempt while the cynical blackmailers regard them as a baseline from which to make further demands. Neither is anything achieved by saying “fine, go.” Acquiescing in the theft of Canadian territory and the destruction of the federation hardy counts as a “tough” position.
No, the proper stance is to advertise, well in advance, that neither exercise will be regarded as conferring any right to secede of any kind; that whatever we might be willing to talk about afterward, it would not be secession. It might not even be as advantageous as the status quo.
@abc123jjj@ABDanielleSmith You cry about rights but then conveniently disregard the rights of Indigenous peoples when it gets in the way of what you believe you’re entitled to. Indigenous rights supersede 1867, so sit down.
@ABDanielleSmith Preemptive use of the notwithstanding clause was never its intended purpose. The foolish Con premiers brought this on themselves by frivolously using it to stomp on individual rights whenever they felt like it. Alberta, if one person has no rights and freedoms none of us do.
@globeandmail@acoyne Cons don’t want an election. Floor crossing is the least of their problems. Ask yourself, why are MPs crossing in the first place?
@JDVance Was that you Vance actually saying the Pope needs to be careful when talking about theology? Unbelievable, your arrogance and ignorance. Time for reflection. The Pope will still be here long after you’re gone from office, and make no mistake, you’ll be gone.
@NorthernFiFi@CanadianPolling Since we’re quibbling, there are 3 by-elections that potentially will give the Liberals their majority. Floor crossers give the Liberals 171, which is not a majority.
@spedassist@ColinDMello@normsworld What budgets? Our kids shouldn’t continue to suffer because this government underfunds boards while over-paying made up jobs for their buddies.
@NorthernFiFi@CanadianPolling What party? Totally legitimate. Other parties have the ability to do this, and the Conservatives have enjoyed floor crossers too in the past. I get it, it’s only a problem when the other party does it. 🙄
@JosephB1823@CityNewsTO There is absolutely no threat to democracy. Floor crossing have been going on since confederacy began. There are numerous Conservative safe ridings. These 2 by-elections happen to be in safe Liberal ridings. Deal with it.
@nataschanashali@SenWarren She didn’t say she hated anyone. Going after someone by calling them elite, true or not, when you do so in the defence of elite is strange. How about this: support the group of elites who do the least to destroy your civil liberties and democracy and stick with them.