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@BRuddTweets To be fair they did their best to annihilate these good parts of Cincinnati with the interstate system and abandoning the subway. Places like Cincy exist in spite of the policy decisions of the last 85 years.

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@Omnipupcolony @ettingermentum Was going to come here to post this

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@rccola413 @lucicityy @RefrmDemocracy I’ve always thought a history of NYC through the medium of Tammany Hall; dioramas of the city, personal stories, political history, etc. would be a cool thing to put in there

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@mike_slugs Truly world historical. Up there with the late 1910s and early 20s.

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@mike_slugs In the north, particularly as the war went on, and especially amongst the soldiers who came face-to-face with a plantation system as they move south tended towards a vengeful attitude that would have great stomach for such things. Especially after the assassination of Lincoln.

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@mike_slugs This says nothing of working class and veterans opinions on the matter. There is an obvious focus here on the sentiments of middle class liberals, newspaper owners, and that faction of the Republican Party, which exists between Butler and say Greeley. Generally popular opinion-

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@mike_slugs Common law makes it functionally impossible on a political level, unless you are willing to go the whole measure of forcible seizure of rightful property.

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@mike_slugs Because under the specific circumstance of treason in a Civil War, you could probably convince many Republicans even of less radical varieties that land seizures, and redistributions would be a legitimate move. However, the moment the pardons were issued American-

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@Gaismair And was proactively cracking skulls, sublimating machine wards and siccing mafiosos on unions while doing Share the Wealth nonsense right alongside Coughlin then sure. But him doing it in Louisiana functionally makes it a wash morally/politically

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@Gaismair Long larping is annoying but just as well; the man was essentially a Bowery Ward Heeler, him being a fascist never made hard contact. At no point was Long sending out squads of veterans to pummel unions, murder leftists or the such. If he did his whole shtick in say, Chicago-

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@chrismes11 @ettingermentum See it’s sad but I functionally see Lincoln’s death as a sort of secular (civic might be the better word here) martyrdom that is functionally necessary or at the very least (Hegel forgive me for uttering it) Historically Progressive in terms of affirming support for the Radicals

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@ettingermentum Biggest issue is the parameters of Reconstruction being set by Johnson during his time as virtual Dictator (Congressional Recess) where he pardoned Confederate leadership, disarmed several black units and most crucially reaffirmed their property rights to their land unprompted.

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@chrismes11 @ettingermentum in Southern society that allowed the Klan and other such groups an active trellis to grow upon. Would there be violence? Categorically more than in our timeline, however the wholesale reconstruction of southern society would be more effective.

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@chrismes11 @ettingermentum Slope into inevitable Jim Crow. Make large scale arrests of the remaining plantation aristocracy and break up their land under the ruling of treason (we had done it already to the loyalists so legal precedent) and you have at least a less drastically unbalanced power structure-

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@foidsephi @hellspatisserie Not trying to dickride Long here but it’s categorically nuts to put that on him. Just like Gilded Age “anti-corruption” reformers, Bourbon Democrats were incredibly insular and maintained strict control of state and local government through societies, machines, clubs, etc.

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@MarxNotNarcs @ettingermentum Not nearly efficient enough in the deployment of massive corruption and not giving af about it.