@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok Look, we're obviously not going to agree, so I'm just gonna leave this here. Ultimately it doesn't matter who we think is the better manager, what matters is where our clubs finish. Full respect for your opinion, even if I disagree with it, best of luck for the rest of the season
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok Pound for pound he's done a great job at Villa, absolutely. But the work he's doing is a rung below those actually competing for the biggest prizes, and as I pointed out with the late Wenger years, those managers aren't usually called "the best", the league winners/contenders are
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok Wenger spends several years on around zero budget getting Arsenal top 4 and FA cups? "Wenger Out!"
Emery spends a few years getting Villa in and out of the top 4 on zero budget with a Europa League? "Best manager in the league!!"
Doesn't quite follow in my head, that's all.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok You're proving my point lol. Wenger is absolutely revered as one of the greatest for the work he did in the 90s and early 2000s, rightly so, love him. But he was a laughing stock from 06 onwards when he started getting top 4 on zero budget, exactly what Emery is doing now!
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok The xenophobic abuse he got from fans and the media was awful, totally unjustified, but that doesn't mean he did a good job. Had us hurtling down the table with no clue what to do, completely cracked as soon as he faced real pressure. Awful tactical and coaching decisions weekly.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok Arsenal fans pushed him out because he was doing a bad job! Was given loads of money, didn't know what to do with it, imbalanced our squad, lost the dressing room, has us conceding 30 shots to Watford, gave us NO identity, tried to sell all our youngsters.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok That's not what I'm saying mate, and I think you know it. When Wenger was finishing top 4 from 06-13 on an even net spend, was anyone pretending he was better than the managers winning titles at the time? No.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_ Our best players in Emery's final few weeks were a bunch of teenagers that Ljuenberg had to bully him into playing, he tried to sell Saka as part of a swap deal for Zaha!
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_ No he didn't lol, I was there and watched every game. Not Arteta's fault that Emery imbalanced our attack, gutted our midfield of any technical quality, and didn't improve our defence.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok He's super comfy winning the 2nd rate competitions with Villa/Sevilla/Villareal, but looked massively out of his depth with us and left a HUGE mess for the next manager, and embarrassed PSG in the UCL (their goal). He's not the guy that takes a big club and wins Premier Leagues.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok It just isn't. It's the exact thing Wenger did for 2006-13 and was just laughed at, nobody pretended he was better than the managers winning titles. The best managers win things with the biggest clubs, Emery failed at two big clubs and has found his comfort zone at a smaller one.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_ Let's not forget that before he got sacked, Emery threw away an easy top 4 finish in 18/19 to rest players for the UEL knockouts, only to deliver the most embarrassing result in the club's modern history in Baku. The got rid of all his technicians and killed who we were, fun!
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_ I don't condone xenophobia against anyone. The reason Arteta struggled in his first few seasons is because Emery left him with a MASSIVE mess. Gutted our squad of technical quality, signed a series of short-term mercenaries, and left us without an identity.
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_ Again, that's just his comfort zone, an underdog manager for smaller sides, nothing more. He was at Arsenal, was given more money than Arteta was in his early years, gutted our squad, bottled top 4 and the UEL, and left us in midtable with an awful squad largely of his own making
@MattSma18001807@LeCheval1er@MKTRIB_@grok Wanna ask Grok who oversaw La Remontada? Who signed Neymar and Mbappe for nearly £400m combined but couldn't get past the R16 in the UCL (the entire point of that project)? Who somehow lost the 16/17 league title, despite them lifting it by March in 15/16?