lordgrindleford

By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.

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[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@catholicpat It was necessary for Christ to die on the cross. Without that, there can be no forgiveness of sin; without that, we have no way of avoiding judgment for our sin. Christ bore our sin into death for us. He died for our sin in our place. He took our punishment of death for us.
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@CedarsAndSaints He did explain that his words were Spiritual, and discounted flesh.
He didn't say "my words are literal".

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@Biblethumpingwi No it's not. Here's how it works.
For the elect:
God foreknew him, and calls him to faith;
he freely chooses to believe.
For the non-elect:
God foreknew him, and calls him to faith;
he freely chooses not to believe / keep believing.

Providence belongs to God.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@HakamYaaqub It is gratifying the flesh for you, by your O.P. You authorise married men flirting, and treating their wives with cruel disdain. Luk6.31
https://t.co/nXCYaog3Pr
And then quote 1tim4.1-3 in support! As I said, Jesus DESCRIBED marriage in mat19. It excludes polygamy.

[The Elder One @HakamYaaqub]

Married Christian men are perfectly within their God-given rights to flirt with other single women and seek out another wife.

If his first wife has a problem with this, she is being disobedient to God.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@StBurr91 @sola_chad Same call. Different response.
Judas is a good example.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@StevenUllmer As I said, how could God judge the Pharisees for not being baptised by John if they were not free to choose baptism?
He couldn't.
Therefore they were free to choose baptism - that which they did not desire the most.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@StevenUllmer I said that people are free to choose what they don't desire the most. I have proved that statement.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@StevenUllmer The Pharisees were free to choose otherwise. If that wasn't the case, how could God judge them for not being baptised by John?

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@HakamYaaqub It was a command to ensure lineage continued for the dead brother, and no doubt sometimes the surviving brother was already married.
But to quote Jesus: it was not this way from the beginning.
Obey Christ. Don't gratify the flesh. Follow the Spirit. Gal5.16ff
Love your wife.

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@catholicpat Oh?
Catholics often attack Protestants.
Anyway, attacking false doctrines is a good thing, not a bad thing. Both sides do that.
https://t.co/RNQbk1tLTk

[Patrick Neve @catholicpat]

Pope Leo meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@StevenUllmer There are probably hundreds of examples in the bible.
Eg luk7.30. The Pharisees should have and could have been baptised by John. Their refusal was enough to show that they rejected God's purpose for themselves!

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@HakamYaaqub Every one of those O.T scriptures speaks of polygamy as a concession to their hard-heartedness, not approval. It couldn't have been approved by God, in light of gen2.
Rom7.2-3 is an illustration about being freed from the Law, not a distinction between men and women.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@StBurr91 @sola_chad God also calls the non-elect to repentance (eg jn6.70,luk7.30).
Some hear and learn from God, and come to Christ (jn6.45).
And only some of these ones persevere to the end (eg mat24.13).
Foreknowledge belongs to God. He foreknows those he predestines, calls, justifies, glorifies.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@CatholicDrip___ 2thes2.15 needs to be understood in the light of act26.22.
The traditions they taught were all grounded in the O.T.

I don't see this with many Catholic traditions. People departed from the godly traditions.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@Biblethumpingwi Where is the justice in God condemning people for sin who cannot possibly avoid sin, because God has given them a corrupt nature and no means to resist it?

Calvinism is obviously false, and everyone else sees this. Doesn't mean they are unified.

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@HakamYaaqub Surely you aren't saying that polygamy is a command of the Law?

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@StevenUllmer We are free to choose what we don't desire the most, too.

[lordgrindleford @lordgrindleford]

@HakamYaaqub Intended? No. God works with people, despite their hardheartedness. Sin is in the world, and men departed from God's purpose for them.
But we have greater revelation: Christ, the Son of God. He set the boundaries of sexual morality clearly for us. It does not include polygamy.

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@SufrinSuccotash @KickPistons Paul spoke only what the Moses and and the Prophets spoke. He explained scripture in the light of Christ.
The noble Bereans confirmed his teaching against the O.T.
When I look at Catholicism I don't see this.
Perpetual virginity vs virgin birth.
Sinless Mary vs "No one righteous"