@CLEEEZING@aledizen@oskariuontt@Jekigno He ended up paying me back after I paid from my own wallet after 2months. My point is that he took this long and didnt respond for 2months, which led me to leave a warning that its what he done
@CLEEEZING@aledizen@oskariuontt@Jekigno It was publicly announced in S4 or 5, whichever had the delayed payment, that cry had disappeared. This was public knowledge and hence I took over finance, and all was fine. Since my departure it returned to him, and all natural issues from before returned
What happened to @BlindOwlsGG after winning Phantom League is honestly a clear example of the current state of console competitive Rainbow Six.
A team wins a league, players spend months competing, improving, preparing matches and giving everything, and then the Discord server disappears, the organizer vanishes, and the prize pool/fees become a problem.
And sadly, this is not the first time something like this has happened.
The issue is bigger than just Phantom League. Console competitive is slowly losing trust. There are fewer and fewer Discord-based leagues, fewer serious tournaments, fewer teams willing to pay entry fees, and more people starting to question if it is even worth investing money and time into these competitions.
When teams see situations like this, they stop paying.
When players see this, they lose motivation.
When organizations see this, they stop investing.
And when that happens, the whole console scene slowly dies.
Community leagues can still be important, but without transparency, guaranteed prize pools, serious admins and real accountability, this scene cannot survive.
At this point, I honestly think many teams will only start looking at ESA Cups, official Ubisoft events, or tournaments with a proven and reliable organization behind them.
It is sad, but this is the reality right now: if trust keeps disappearing, console competitive Rainbow Six will disappear with it.
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Oh yeah its crazy, and my phone is still going off as we speak to the point I got her to reply to my dms too for me. ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: I DO not and HAVE not possessed and personal contact info of Cry, please stop asking.
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Iโm also in the retired seat. Was on ft with my girlfriend before work and receive 50+ tags across dc and X to see this. What a world we live in to be scamming for money that wonโt last a month in our economy
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Exactly. Same with Chris and RZG LEAGUE, but thats another story I wont go into on how he made a whole fake LAN event ๐. Only League I can recommend personally right now is WaRs tournament by @Maggrint_ as I had personal ties and partnership with him in the past
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Not even, so many have shut down and I think because teams put their trust too easy Console Comp is a dying art. Even ESA is shutting back down again
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ True. Around 3weeks before this ordeal I lost all perms to see anything in Phantom, at that point I had a sense he was planning this, but with no proof if i tried to shut it down i would get flamed. Not to mention the szn i paid FROM POCKET as he was trying to run w moneyโฆ
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Yeah and my condolences to all teams, I do wish there is something I can do, despite my cries to shut down the league, but I am just as helpless. I wish the best of luck to all teams affected
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Neither did I. When i took over S3 I told Cry that unless he gave me FULL reigns (that being finance, discord, OPL etc) I wouldnโt do anything. And look, with me in charge, none of this happened. The second I am gone all Exp and Trust the people had gone.
@cizoqq@Rxidd_@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Exactly, him and then after Chris disappeared for a month from Phantom I knew something was up. All in all it canโt be said I didnโt try help, and despite me only having one minor incident while in charge for 1.5yrs I was ignored. I wish I couldโve done more to prevent this.
@Rxidd_@cizoqq@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ The only credibility or sophistication for Phantom was created by me during my time in charge. I ran it solo, despite my peak season having 10admins, I did it all. And now after i warned people of Cry, people didnt believe me, i told admins to overturn yet I got mocked. This is y
@cizoqq For me my road is done, with the revival of ESA being short lived, 2 of my ex Partners Cry and Chris both scamming their own Leagues respective, I do not wish to return. I have made a name for myself, one people can trust, but I just do not see Console EU Comp being the same.
And so I have heard unfortunate events with both #PhantomEULeague and #RZG, both of whom were my ex Partners when I ran Phantom. Needless to say I retired my position due to my distrust in their capabilities to assist me, though an event like this I could not predict.
@cizoqq@Fortyyyyyy@WarS_Tournament@Maggrint_ Agreed was already getting fishy when they changed paypal and Shit. Was a Great League @lostkirii started & maybe they shouldโve just ran the entrys still through him but yeah I donโt see where 1,7k get you then you must be Living on the Edge