@PhilMagovern@coffeeguy_77@needGod_net Read the very next verse. Its those who believe:
“For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
- John 6:40
@Anevs23@needGod_net No, it's not that doing good works means you don't trust in Christ, but rather that if you rely on your good works to get you to heaven, then that shows you're not trusting 100% in Jesus but rather 50% Jesus, and 50% yourself
@kaiss_noah29745@needGod_net In Psalm 73 the psalmist writes of how he was ignorant and senseless, and in verses 2-3 he talks of how he was envious toward the wicked of their riches. Yet, despite him being in a fallen state he writes "Nevertheless, you hold my right hand."
God holds you even when you fail.
@needGod_net look how boastful the Catholics in these replies are. Is this the fruit of being Catholic? Are they even regenerate? Their attitude is still like that of the world
@MDnightMarawder@BibleInContext1 2 Thess. 2:15 proves apostolic oral teaching existed. No Protestant disputes that. What it doesn't prove is that binding apostolic doctrine remained outside Scripture, was preserved infallibly for centuries, and is identifiable today.
That's the actual point that needs proving.
@TaylorRMarshall When a war ends there is peace because the people are actually safe, even if they dont feel it. In the same way, we have peace with God even if we dont feel it. Im happy you felt peace, but peace is more than a feeling. It is the assurance of being saved and secure in Christ
@VainFrigguss@needGod_net You're dodging the question. If a person believes the gospel right now, are they still under God's condemnation or not?
Jesus says those who believe have passed from death to life (John 5:24). That's not a process.
@LethalHoliness@needGod_net Trusting in Jesus means to trust with your heart that he died for your sins, was buried, and resurrected. This trust in Jesus will transform them because those who believe in him become children of God (John 1:12-13), but their transformation isn't the reason they go to heaven
@writeontheedg3@needGod_net@KennyBurchard Okay so let's paint a scenario. Let's say someone comes to truly trust in Jesus as their Lord and Savior. In that very moment when they have already repented (changed their mind) and now believe, are they justified?
@SeanNea71990714@lordpandaxx@needGod_net Wrong. No one said you don't have to obey Jesus. We are saying that if you make your obedience partially why you're going to heaven, your salvation is then based on your performance, and this gives you a reason to boast in your actions on judgment day. This is not the gospel.
@twmays1974@needGod_net "...eternal life itself, which is the REWARD of good works, the apostle calls the gift of God."
...I have never seen someone butcher that verse so bad. Nowhere in Rom 6:23 does it say that our good works are the gift of God, but rather that "eternal life" is the gift of God.
@ThyPaddyDaddy@RickWMiller1 That's not bad. In fact that is good. The argument though is that it would be bad if you think that you're going to heaven because of what Jesus did for you + the good works you go out of your way to do (or just works in general). Because that would contradict Eph 2:8-9
@Gigakiin@needGod_net@BishopJaxi No they're not pointless. The argument is that our works from our faith are not what merit eternal life. It is only by trusting in Jesus (1 John 5:13)