@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip When I see hate on kaveh, it is almost always homophobia or ableism. He’s too peak a character so all they can think of is making fun of him for his mental health or call him slurs. Never creative hate. And they tend to just dislike him because he is popular.
@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip Thank you. I might be random Twitter user lyneyliker6 but I have been fighting on the haikaveh front lines since it was originally leaked that alhaitham had a roommate in 2022.
@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip ‘You don’t understand them you just like nsfw!!’ While usually the people I see them that understand them the most are the people that make that content 🤣
@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip I mean, people enjoying 18+ content of a ship doesn’t mean they don’t understand the characters, it’s just that people will often say as much to try and get some kind of ‘gotcha’ because they don’t like shippers
@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip If people say ‘Kaveh needs alhaitham to be a complete character’, then they have to accept that ‘alhaitham needs Kaveh to be a complete character’, and I would argue that the latter is more true. Kavehs existence is what made people understand alhaitham better as a character
@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip But haikaveh are characters that are fully understood if you accept their relationship. They are so intertwined in every tiny detail. A lot of their writing isn’t that of a singular character, but them as a pair, their story, and their growth.
@SynAfterDark@lesbistaroth No beigguang shipper views them in that lens, only homophobe from the outside. This person doesn’t understand these ships fan base at all
@Sonic_zip I want to add to this to say to those who appreciate alhaitham a lot too, there’s plenty of you I just see more people prefer kaveh as a character not saying they actively dislike alhaitham
They’re both well written characters who have great depth both in and out of their ship
@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip I think it’s usually non shippers who see kaveh as just ‘alhaithams roommate’ because a lot of Kaveh’s content isn’t in the main story, but the shippers want to see more of their ship so they see all the other content, and realise how wonderful he is
@BnnuyMintchoco@Sonic_zip I mean, some, but I’ve also seen a lot very beautiful in depth understandings of his character, and it’s always from a shipper.
@marrowsyn It is silly, and like, haikaveh is probably biggest ship in game, why would they feel ‘threatened’ when nilou ship with alhaitham and kaveh is way less popular and has no canon ground anyway? They just making things up to be misogynist. Horrible
@cyno_timely I support this, the boy group is really interesting because as much as i love 4ggravate alhaitham would NEVER be an idol, i like the idea of kaveh being a professional who was maybe the older, past group leader and left to go solo and passed the role onto cyno
@4kn7ve The only way that man will ever be playable is if he randomly comes up with a ‘good segment’ and I think we’re long past that
Also, to me it is very satisfying for those who glazed him so much to watch him get humbled by Mitya as a scientist