@FergusCircus@PosterInternet@flawedaxioms the colloquial usage of the term is pretty clearly just "class that is seen as lesser (than the dominant class) without a chance of advancement"
@barneymemejpg@denimneverdies the Catholic Church was the primary form of Christianity within the Roman Empire for all of Christian history. Marcionites, Adoptionists, Judaizers, etc were fringe groups.
@stockdaddyg@Aella_Girl that's obviously not vanilla. It's also not the proper comparison. the point is being made from the perspective of the receptive/submissive partner, so the binary is wanting or not wanting sex with hitting, not wanting to hit or be hit during sex that involves hitting.
@Reboticant@delujog@uncle_deluge Religion was a big thing here, too, but when faced with the prospect of "you can't kill the Catholics we just conquered" Americans rebelled (obviously you had other reasons but that was one of them), so it definitely wasn't an equally big thing.
@_glorianas on the one hand the past ~10 years have seen Canadian Progressivism become noticeably more American and this is not ideal, but that the Conservatives have been Americanised for so long that I meet people my age who don't know what a Tory is
@Can_of_Memes I think the funnier part is that they legitimately were for most of our history and then we invented Woke 0.5 and proto-DEI and pushed it really hard once they started doing terrorism.
@delujog@uncle_deluge Do you think that history has no influence over culture, or that culture has no influence over your perception of the world? American culture "others" the Irish in a way Canadian culture doesn't.
@constans@motivatedjoy2 Yeah like I've had people ask why we use the term "visible minority" and then I've had to explain that it's because our framework was that discrimination is a thing that happens to Francophones and Catholics and we just added race to it.
@delujog@uncle_deluge I'm not saying that's the conscious process that led to Americans deciding that. I'm just saying that the historical context is significantly different, and your view of the Irish is informed by your historical context as ours is by ours. fwiw I'm 1/8th New Englander :p
@stockdaddyg@Aella_Girl no, but *not wanting to be hit* is a vanilla preference. heterosexual missionary sex doesn't become a kinky act in and of itself even if you engage in other kinks alongside it.
@delujog@uncle_deluge the discrimination the Irish faced here was the same that they faced back home. Toronto had Orange Order parades for a long time, for example.
@delujog@uncle_deluge I'm pretty sure that that's mostly because of the civil war, where you guys had a bunch of Irish people show up at once while the nation was very concerned with matters of identity. That's not to say that Canada never had any discrimination against the Irish, but that (cont)