@mikgroyp@blustatep8triot@farmingandJesus@JoelWebbon@sola_chad It's one thing to say "our marriage is imperfect but by God's help we are striving to grow and be like Jesus."
It's another to say "our marriage is not ideal because my wife is not white like me. But there is nothing we can do about that, but I'll be faithful."
@MarkMacdonald75@PuritanGold@WordWithJustin But it seems you affirm the first sentence of the LF. Christ's atonement was sufficient to satisfy divine justice for all the world. And as we know, not all have the atonement applied to them. Thus we have unbelievers with an atonement accomplished for them that are judged.
@Livng4Jesus@806_reformer Specific example - an unhealthy lifestyle provokes us to anxiety and depression. Therefore, commit to discipline yourself in exercise, better sleep, and a healthy diet for the benefit of your soul.
@MarkMacdonald75@PuritanGold@WordWithJustin I've read several volumes of Owen, but not on that subject. So my apologies if I am misrepresenting him. However, did he not teach that Christ's suffering was sufficient only for the elect?
@MarkMacdonald75@PuritanGold@WordWithJustin Owen's contention that God's wrath poured out on Jesus was equivalent to the amount and intensity of His suffering fits with limited atonement.
"Sufficient for all, efficient for the elect" does not. It makes better sense of redemption accomplished and redemption applied.