@TheRealRazt@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext Sounds alot like youre talking about Judaism where speaking out against it or leaving it leads to capital punishments~
Ironic how any criticism you make against Islam as Christian immediately makes you a hypocrite against your own God, scriptures, and law~
@Wilhelm5655@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext It is a presentism fallacy because the marriage was following cultural norms, which were normal prior to the 20th century even in Christian cultures~
No Muslim takes 9 years old as legal age for getting married~
I cant say the same with Judaism such practices are preached today~
@westerfy@PhoebanFicino@blacknredtext There is no age of marriage in the Quran, the Bible, nor Torah~
Marriage at the age of puberty prior to the 20th century was the norm in most societies including Christian and Jewish as well~
The Torah even commanded taking of young virgin girls as slaves during Moses times~
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext Because 12 years old girls getting married is acceptable and not paedophilia to you?
All your insults turn back to you in your defense of the church laws~
I have given you my time, and I proved your double standards and insincerity against Islam as a Christian~
I am done, bye
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext It was 12 for girls because that was generally when they were reaching puberty, and Aisha reached puberty at 9 following the same ruling for age of marriage
Calling it perversion is a double standard when you are justifying girls being married at 12
Proof that you are insincere
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext So you arent aware that betrothals are a thing? Or that Ashia was always betrothed to someone else much earlier but it was called off?
Again, youre ignorant. Not only to Islam but basic history itself~
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext The fact that you call yourself a historian of theology and a philologist but havent picked up the norm of marriages in history in your studies is what I am talking about~
So full of yourself but your words are so ignorant~
Or maybe its just your painfully obvious bias showing~
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext So your morality doesnt come from Christianity but your own opinion? Even though puberty has always been the acceptable age of marriage to the Christians prior to the 19th century~
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext Its not about whether it was common or but whether it was legal and acceptable, and even in Christian society prior to the 19th century, marriage would be on the table as soon as puberty~
The fact that you cant see your presentism fallacy is why I didnt bother to argue~
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext Its shocking that you think marriage at a young age wasnt a norm even in Christian and Jewish societies up until the twentieth century~ 😆
So much for being professional philologist~
@PhoebanFicino@LegendaryCucho@blacknredtext Imagine calling yourself a professional philologist but being so ignorant to basic social practices prior to the 19th century~ 😷
I dont know if youre new to being a "professional" but this is genuinely sad~
@LegendaryCucho@PhoebanFicino@blacknredtext I can, I could sit here and explain this to people who actually want to learn but I doubt any of you actually want to listen~
Thats why I said to google it, there are thousands of videos of Muslims covering it, you can even just ask AI~
If you really cared, you wouldnt need me~
@LegendaryCucho@PhoebanFicino@blacknredtext I can, I could sit here and explain this to people who actually want to learn but I doubt any of you actually want to listen~
Thats why I said to google it, there are thousands of videos of Muslims covering it, you can even just ask AI~
If you really cared, you wouldnt need me~
@PhoebanFicino@blacknredtext You do all that and these are the arguments you brought forth? 😆😆😆
Maybe you should actually learn from Muslims on their own scriptures rather than make up your own false interpretations and claim its how Muslims religion works~
You are very ignorant on Islam~
@PhoebanFicino@blacknredtext All these arguments prove you are barely educated in Islam. Every single point here has been refuted multiple times in videos, you can even ask AI to explain it~
But the truth is that you dont want to learn, you want to believe these arguments are valid so you can sleep better~
@PhoebanFicino@blacknredtext "Christian standards today" but not Christian standards in the 7th century? 😆
Prophet Muhammad's life was no different from the prophets in the bible but they are accepted and he isnt?
The science in the Quran checks out~
And lastly, Muhammad did from poisoning, not the aorta~