@CheckCharlieB Very rare that I have to get the gif out for non Labour shill posts... No thanks, we'll let the Tory party wither till the libdem lites at the heart of it are all gone before we ever trust you again.
Fuck these arseholes. If they don't want the name, then let's move the ship somewhere they will want the income. Use the money from the museum and city's budget to move the ship and set up the new museum.
The green party will be the final nail in the coffin of this country if elected.
.@MatthewStadlen, nobody serious condones the burning of homes or violence against innocent people. That has been said clearly and repeatedly. Peaceful mass non-compliance, sustained public anger expressed through votes, through civic pressure, through the kind of informed public argument that refuses to be silenced, would be far more effective and far more legitimate than disorder. That is the argument worth making.
What you deliberately fail to address is why we are here. This didn't happen because of social media. If anything social media has given a voice to millions who were ignored, dismissed and labelled by the very people supposed to be representing them. For thirty years the political and media class controlled the terms of the debate. They decided what could be said, who could say it and what label would be applied to anyone who said the wrong thing. Social media broke that monopoly. The anger you are now describing as dangerous was always there. It was simply not permitted a platform until now.
Britain was forged over a millennium. Out of invasion and resistance, reformation and revolution, industrial genius and imperial reach, two world wars and the stubborn refusal to be broken. The people who built that country, who dug its coal, staffed its factories, fought its wars and buried its dead, were never consulted about the transformation of their communities at a speed and scale that their own government now admits was too much, too quickly. When they objected they were called racist. When they persisted they were called far right. When they voted for parties that reflected their concern those parties were dismissed as extremist.
The working class communities now erupting with anger are not doing so because of a website. They are doing so because their concerns were ignored for thirty years by people like you, who had the platforms, the education and the proximity to power to raise these questions honestly and chose instead to brand those raising them as bigots.
The road to perdition was not paved by the people of Belfast. It was paved by the political and media class that substituted mass migration for economic reform, celebrated the transformation as diversity, prosecuted those who questioned it as racists, and is now, as the consequences arrive, reaching for the same tired accusation one more time.
You are not describing a backward ideology. You are describing the consequence of your own class's choices. The difference is that the people in those streets have to live with those consequences. You do not.
Why did the jobs need saving Peter ? And how many were actually lost ?
Because it is more truthful to say that Labour's obsession with net zero cost hundreds of jobs at Grangemouth and £120 million in bungs to save 500 temporarily till the company decide it is still no longer viable. And closed Denby Pottery and countless others, costing us more money in unemployment benefits for those impacted. What's the bill for that ?
Fixed it for you, need to thank me.
@Keir_Starmer Unite the country by either a) replacing the coppers on the front line of the unrest with you and your MP's, plus all the other politicians of whatever party who have brought the people to the point of feeling that unrest is the only way to be heard, or b) resigning.
Here is one reason not to which trumps all the above. You had 14 years to do something good for this country and did the opposite of what the electorate wanted at almost every turn, especially on Brexit and Migration. You are still the party of libdem lites which fucked it up when you were in power and we don't trust you any more.
There is an easy solution to this. Lower ranking Police officers stand down when there is violent disorder stoked by pathetic police leadership and political indifference to the lot of ordinary people, and have the police SLT, CoP and most importantly MP's manning the front line of the public order response and let the rioters take out their anger on the people it should be directed at.
Change would happen after the first riot, I guarantee it.
Be better than this Rupert. The country needs you to be. Reform are not the enemy of the people, even if they are on your shit list. Target the government and the far left, not the party which is closest aligned to you out of the rest of parliament. You should be working together, rather than against each other.
@JoWhiteSays Be careful asking for that... Might find that the percentage of Labour local and government politicians who fail it would be higher than if they did the whole of the Wormwood Scrubs prison population.
Britain has the most expensive electricity in the developed world.
Your energy bill has more than tripled since 2004.
Because politicians made choices, over and over again, that put ideology ahead of your heating bill.
The SDP published Energy Abundance last year.
It explains how we got here and what it takes to fix it.
Read it here - https://t.co/Pc980vLgLu
Keep at it folks. This constant fucking bickering between restore and reform is going to condemn this great nation to a future of lab/green/lib dem far left coalitions and the gradual outlawing of anyone who doesn't follow the same views through successive rounds of legislation design to keep them in power perpetually.
Target the real enemy FFS (the far left if you're not clear) and for the love of god Rupert and Nigel have your spat spat in private.
I think an easier way to answer this is to say that we have tried the other two main parties (much to our detriment over the last few decades) so why wouldn't we want to try something different ? They might screw it up, but could they really do a worse job than the last few governments have done ?
Very sad. There are many causes - such as high energy prices and Labour’s tax on jobs but there is something even bigger. In Tesco you can buy Chinese made plates which look unnerving like Denby - knock-offs effectively - at a fraction of the price.
We continue to delude ourselves that ‘free trade’ is fair trade. It isn’t and the long-term costs to our society of this wanton de-industrialisation is devastating.