@ingsocialist@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy But OP didn't mention nation at all, just simply claimed that China and South Korea are different *Countries*. Jelly didn't have to bring up "nation" or "state" at all. Ppl responding to Jelly aren't using the acedemic meaning, but it's largely due to Jelly's confusing rhetoric.
@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy How is the ratio wrong if both definitions are correct? It just means that in this context ppl refer to the more conventional meaning. You can't just say the ratio is wrong for not getting your or jelly's definition while ignoring our definition which was used by OP at the start.
@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy And my definition in this context aligns with the majority judging by the ratio. There was no need for Jelly to keep using a niche definition of a term that deviates the conventional other than derailing the conversation.
@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy All good. It'd be better if he elaborated the definition he's refering rather than doubling down. Personally, in this context, country = nation, as in United Nations; Province is similar to state since they are both substructures within a country.
@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy And ofc "china is a nation" is relevant arguement since Jelly's defination of "nation" and "state" deviates from the norm, so he's incorrect in our pov. Does he not know the conventional meanings of "nation" or "provinces"? So his counter arguement's either wrong or irrelevant.
@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy Are you his alt? OP said that China and Korea are not states within a larger entity, but seperate countries, which is correct? Why feel the need to challenge that using less conventional definition of "nation" and "state" other than Jelly wanting to appear smarter?
@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy You are fine. Calling Tibet a nation is correct in a sense. However stating "China is a state that contains nations" as a counter arguement against "China is a nation that contains provinces" is either wrong or irrelevant depending on the definition of "nation".
@dcitoTV@jelloflavour@P1X314T3D@wasabiiiladyy Would you call Zhejiang, Sichuan, Henan, etc. nations? Tibet is a province-level autonomous zone, it's not a nation in the sense of a soveeign state.