@MikePatton12303@BitcoinUndisc Though does there need to be a one true Christian church? All who call upon the name of the Lord are part of the church. 1 Corinthians 1:2, etc.
@JoshuaTCharles This is creating two classes of Christians, essentially saying that non-Roman Catholic Christians are not Christians of equal standing right now. This is the exact kind of thing Paul opposed so strongly in Galatians. All who believe in Christ alone are of equal standing.
An acquaintance with church history often leads people to Rome, but an extensive knowledge of church history leads them away. In episode 5 of Defending the Reformation, @DrJordanBCooper, @gavinortlund, and @MichaelHorton_ discuss the visibility of the church.
@KickPistons You talk here as if the Bible cannot speak. The Scriptures were written to the people (Romans 1:7; 1 Cor 1:2; etc.), so they can understand them.
@redeemed_zoomer Maybe it is partly because of those things. Maybe those things free them to teach the Bible and encourage people to obey it. I do believe tradition matters, but having less attachment to tradition may actually help them to do these things better.
@redeemed_zoomer@Roach_VDB It is how the apostles functioned, separating from the Jewish church that had apostatized. Also Jesus speaks of churches being removed if they remain unfaithful (Revelation 2-3), Paul says this of the Roman church (Romans 11:21-23), etc.
@TridentineBrew@charliekirk11 Isn’t faith in Christ enough? And Charlie was baptized. Baptism of desire in a particular branch of Christianity is not required. “For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.”
The example you gave of the child in time out is simply an example of discipline, for the sake of growth. The Catholic Church explicitly teaches that purgatory is more than that—it is also for paying the temporal punishment for sin. This is in addition to the medicinal function. Sean Luke shows this very clearly in the authoritative sources here: https://t.co/SKXBuCJpcP
While the Catholic Church may say Jesus has expiated all sins, in the substance of their doctrine they deny it by teaching there is still temporal punishment to pay for sin (rather than simply growth in holiness).