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@cwenz_2@Wisco0827@DobzMiles Yes. It’s also the reason he rerouted his path which then causes him to lose the base for .0001 sec. according to the microscopic cams that we now use to determine if a 6’ man running 20 mph can dive at full speed and keep his torso on an 18 inch square.
@BrockTurdy13@JohnnyBGoodeDFF@PBglimbeck@MichaelVitaleJr@SNYtv You don’t think he’s should be awarded 2nd without interference of any kind after a walk?
And yes, You have to let it all play out now because of ABS. Called balls and strikes are no longer final. But a quick review shows he had to alter his path because of a blocked path.
@Aussiepaintr@AlexHossfeld@MLeeFromTheCT@ThienemanSZN Sort of, but if that ball goes into center, we can’t argue Pete can’t run to third. Or if the ball goes to the back stop, we can’t say the runners can’t advance. But 99% of the time this specific play acts as a dead ball situation.
@JohnnyBGoodeDFF@PBglimbeck@MichaelVitaleJr@SNYtv You can’t “realize” it with ABS, you have to continue the play regardless. The umpires call is “ball” call is no longer final. Both the fielder and the runner must continue. after the play, it’s clear that the walk happened and the base is his without interference of any kind.
@JohnnyBGoodeDFF@PBglimbeck@MichaelVitaleJr@SNYtv I get why they called him out. I think it’s short sighted and silly to have a rule that trumps a clean and fair path to an already awarded base.
Now if he pops up and moves toward third. Obviously fair game.
@JohnnyBGoodeDFF@PBglimbeck@MichaelVitaleJr@SNYtv The hi res footage footage is also a point of contention in the modern era where you have tiny bases barely an inch of the ground but a camera can tell if a players is off by a 16th of an inch. Good luck digging your cleat into home plate when sliding.
@JohnnyBGoodeDFF@PBglimbeck@MichaelVitaleJr@SNYtv It quite clearly forced the runner to change his path before arriving, so, while the players were misinformed in the moment, which is fine, after the play we now have a form of interference where the runner wasn’t allowed to take his base without liability or obstruction.
@JohnnyBGoodeDFF@PBglimbeck@MichaelVitaleJr@SNYtv Not even close..Delete that quick! THERE WAS A WALK that happened mid play. That’s the whole point. Taking into account that the fielder SHOULD make a play there, yes, (because abs) but after the play, the tag should be considered an obstruction to the runners now entitled base.
@_TheBBQBarn Correct. However, the tag SHOULD happen because of the abs system, players should assume pitches are strikes, but once the play ends, because a walk did happen mid play, the tag attempt becomes an obstruction to the runners entitled bag. It forced the runner to change his path.