This is already falsified by latest papers. University of Helsinki scholars and others.
"all the borrowings are in only one direction: from "Indo-
Iranian" to Uralic, and decades of intense, diligent search have failed to yield a single credible borrowing in the opposite direction: i.e. from Uralic to "Indo-
Iranian"
@Tatsuya9JP@KarPritam39929 we don't use that old stuff. IVC ancestry is not having any split. Thanks for realising that. The genetic ancestry we are talking about is different than Iranian homeland
https://t.co/sXd3VlGYSr
@Tatsuya9JP@SR1_aryan@KarPritam39929 Thank you bro for agreeing with the issues and thanks for realizing that we dont use CHG = IranN or such paleo lithic Iran stuff like those stupid guys.
hope you and Sr1 discuss more if possible. all stuff being discussed here was via peer reviewed papers.
new papers datasets are giving similar data to what Haggarty claimed. so I don't care about heggarty's paper.
Indus valley ancestry is not matchable to proto-Dravidian. Dravidian tribes are majority AASI.
There is no Dravidian language in Zagros Region to claim Zagros is Dravidian related. Elamite is an isolate language.
It's time to get rid of theories which have no evidence
@Tatsuya9JP@SR1_aryan@KarPritam39929 Thank you bro for agreeing with the issues and thanks for realizing that we dont use CHG = IranN or such paleo lithic Iran stuff like those stupid guys.
hope you and Sr1 discuss more if possible. all stuff being discussed here was via peer reviewed papers.
new papers datasets are giving similar data to what Haggarty claimed. so I don't care about heggarty's paper.
Indus valley ancestry is not matchable to proto-Dravidian. Dravidian tribes are majority AASI.
There is no Dravidian language in Zagros Region to claim Zagros is Dravidian related. Elamite is an isolate language.
It's time to get rid of theories which have no evidence
@lihkin_nyc@Ugra___ Heggarty directly claimed Iranic, Indo-iranian evidences in BMAC and many archeologists who studied BMAC have supported the same. Why dont you read papers instead you larp on castes
IVC isn't deciphered. Munda is mostly unrelated to major history
IVC Ancestry isn't like proto Dravdian as per updated data.
There are likely distinct clines in IVC.
So I refrain Calling IVC - pre IE, IE, Dravdian or anything
Note - Scholars have noted some core Indo-iranian elements in BMAC before the steppe entries.
Ancestry in IVC is Sarazm Like.. which is not directly matchable to Proto Dravdian component
There also a lot of other things..
Like Sintashta inventing "spoked wheel"
And all with some broken wheel "imprints"
If one can take imprint has an evidence for that large cliam
There are literally evidences of spoked wheel, direct depictions with vehicles. Predating core Sintashta itself
So many things like this
No co-relation is there. Sintashta/ Andronovo R1a clade is not even significant in Iran and India. almost absent.
1200-300 BC samples in NW India. Had no steppe male R1a ingress. Not even 3-4 samples in 1200-300 BC out of 80+ samples
Paper itself directly quotes it. Indian R1a clade is not even ancestral to Sintashta clade
Steppe Y-dna does not mean aryan. Basques and Ancient Etruscans had 80%+ Steppe Y-dna but they dont have IE language
@kvali_app A (South) Caucasus influence is a clear fact, the question is if this is also the source for PIA (I doubt it). – Based on available evidence, + most importantly linguistic data, it looks like PIA has "northern" roots but with evident Caucasian influence.
https://t.co/mo5YoKa84F
@lihkin_nyc@Ugra___ Heggarty directly claimed Iranic, Indo-iranian evidences in BMAC and many archeologists who studied BMAC have supported the same. Why dont you read papers instead you larp on castes
Latest papers from University of Helsinki scholars and others have already shown that majority of Indo-iranian loans in Uralic are late Proto-iranic words.
they have also said only Indo-Iranian loans are in Uralic and not vice versa. So Indo-Iranian came from other place to Uralic region
There is no evidence Andronovo related "aryan" words despite its interaction with Uralic region
scholars input that uralic argument can't be used for supporting steppe
https://t.co/C9KgtIvCu0
This is already falsified by latest papers. University of Helsinki scholars and others.
"all the borrowings are in only one direction: from "Indo-
Iranian" to Uralic, and decades of intense, diligent search have failed to yield a single credible borrowing in the opposite direction: i.e. from Uralic to "Indo-
Iranian"
@Tatsuya9JP@Ugra___ directly from multiple papers. BMAC main clines had no steppe ancestry. Samples did not show southward spread 2000-1700 BC. BMAC genetically has no link to south asians.
Agricultural terms are there in Proto Indo-iranian itself. Which makes is absent in Sintashta