Then they were like: Armand and Lestat killed Claudia.
No bitch!
Armand set up and had Louis, Claudia and Mads tortured.
Armand and HIS coven killed Claudia.
Lestat went off script.
Lestat offered himself up for punishment.
Lestat mind controlled the audience to save Louis.
@istompurfav@frdmcntrll@arisxsunshine isn’t that literally like 80% of Taylor Swift‘s career? Ariana’s too?
talking about the grief and trauma that a relationship left you with has been done since the beginning of time. it was only like a year after the fact, and she presented it as a way to process not to attack.
its really not that hard to understand like if you want to blame lestat for it all you’re simply ignoring half of her tragedy and completely ignoring louclaudia’s actual relationship. which is just weird cause we spent three seasons on this
when I’m trying to write a proposal scene and realize that nothing will ever top:
“be my companion, Louis, be all the beautiful things you are and be them without apology.”
louis is a “liar” cause armand was playing double dutch with his pretty head for 77 years, lestat lies to hide how he feels & to protect himself especially with his past, armand ….. yeah
@OG_BENJAYLATREZ@loustatusgf a private phone call doesn’t exactly address the public disrespect. a grown adult would consider that instead of assuming the person they hurt owes them a conversation just because they decided to call. but hey, you do you!
@OG_BENJAYLATREZ@loustatusgf if you and someone end on bad terms, you can’t just randomly decide one day to call them and expect it to go well, especially if you were the one in the wrong. this is the exact gesture needed for such a public fallout, she extended the olive branch and is allowing JT the choice.
louis had to break up with the hallucination of his husband in order to be able to even entertain someone else??? no one has ever loved as madly as desperately as louis de pointe du lac
one bad fight between two immortal beings does not define their entire relationship. lestat was deeply ashamed of his actions (as was louis) and they forgave each other for their betrayals. they aren’t human, they are monsters. you can’t expect them to live by human morality.
every time the drop discourse starts on iwtvt, people ironically forget that louis not only started the physical fight but actually WANTED it after years of resentment, anger and jealousy; all the while, lestat tried to deescalate numerous times. (1/3)
and in MY personal opinion, if louis knew he had the cloud gift as well, he would’ve taken lestat up there FIRST.
this man was literally so angry he was talking about slitting his throat and feeding him to lions. (3/3)
Since the Drop Discourse™️ is back for the umpteenth time, one thing that’s perhaps not mentioned enough is Lestat’s attempts to deescalate the fight even in the midst of being mocked & beaten. He’s often (mis)characterized as a carelessly violent, explosive & callous being when we’ve repeatedly seen that he demonstrates empathy & insight into his behaviors. The version we’ve seen of him in the show is also arguably less impulsive than he appears in the books.
Lestat is so often characterized as the sole aggressor that his actual intent is also overlooked - he didn’t plan to hurt Louis to the extent of the drop. He tried to prevent it by communicating warnings with Louis because he initially didn’t want to hurt him. Lestat regrets the drop so deeply, in part, because he had no premeditated intent to harm Louis, but still did.
A pillar of his internalized shame is that he knows he has the capacity to cause such deep harm to those he loves, for reasons both voluntarily (“I couldn’t force him to love me, and so I broke him. What is worse than that? Crushing what you cannot own.”) and involuntary (the rage inherited from Akasha’s blood).
Lestat & Louis both hurt each other during the fight. Louis escalated it. Lestat dropped him. Louis slit Lestat’s throat & refused to burn him. Louis acknowledged the genuine nature of Lestat’s apology when recalling the trial & Lestat took full accountability for his actions while still acknowledging that a part of it was outside of his control. Lestat & Louis have moved past it. The tiring (frankly, boring) cyclical arguments about objective fact get us no closer to actually understanding these characters.
We could argue all day (and do, often) about who was more culpable. But it’s somewhat pointless given that we’re applying human morality principles to non-human beings, while simultaneously failing to recognize much of the depth & agency (& lack thereof, in some situations) in each character’s motivations, actions & their resulting outcomes.