Klēm

i think, therefore He is.
the heart finds Him worthy of submission, the soul finds Him worthy of worship and the mind finds Him worthy of all the praise.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

Respond to truth.

1. starts abuse
2. state of denial (ego/pride)
3. whatever (careless)
4. No response (in doubt but personal truth more important)
5. questions (seeking justification to accept)
6. Accepts verbally
7. Practice truth
8. Guide others to truth

Truth Wins Always

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@AKSyed99 To be honest this is an old and weak argument based on lack of religious understanding and misinformation.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@wendelltalks Already happened check

https://t.co/qZtTi8aFee

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

There is only one faith that can claim “thousands” having and continue to have communication from God and that is Islam Ahmadiyya the followers of the Promised Messiah the second coming of Prophet Jesus (as)

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 I mean give examples or reasons to support that view and that I can be in a better position to analyse but with at the moment I’m not convinced that to be true.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 I would like to think it is one of the finest examples of design.
Do explain though.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 Depends how you define it in detail but overall I/we accept the general idea of evolution.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 No you can continue and i can reply afterwards.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 I am happy to see that.

So I would claim the presence of a design leads to/evidence of a designer rather than calling that designer a design itself.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@_ahdr_ So you know Ahmadiyyat more than Ahmadis?
Sounds as right as the original tweet that was quoted?🫤

Peace ✌️

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 Mostly part of our nature, it’s not based on different cultures or social settings. ie stealing.
Thus such a design leads one to wonder the existence of a designer. Therefore, the existence of that designer is then called ‘God’

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 I do not think spirituality was exclusively about ‘ritual praying’ in any religion. It was more about doing good & avoiding bad that benefits us humans as a whole. Morality you may call it. Thus, such a thing to exist across all humans as if it is imbedded in our nature (general)

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 Well, everyone may examine the data from their framework (reasoning) but they shouldn’t let that bias override that framework and that’s all I’m trying to convey or at least be aware that their bias is diverting the discourse from a fair position.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 My point thus far has been that your perspective is full of bias and not leaving any neutral approach to a fair discussion. These comments support that position.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 I’d think it would be reasonable to listen to the explanation before rejecting it as a far more fair approach.
2. It doesn’t matter to me, but it does matter when having a fair discourse.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 Why likely? Why take a position without having any certain knowledge about ufo abductions?
If you had certain knowledge I would agree with you but if you don’t then you shouldn’t.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 But I didn’t say that about radiation or spirituality and that’s my point you are applying pre existing ideas (true or false) and that is a reason for me to believe there is a serious bias.
You do not think I will be reasonable with my explanation hence such childish proposition

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 But my point is why take the position of calling their experience mistaken if you have never given it a chance.
After their explanation you might decide they were mistaken and that’s completely fine but to take that approach negates the possibility before a fair opportunity.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 🤷🏻‍♂️ could you explain your answer. It seems you are purposely trying to avoid answering it.

[Klēm @Me_Klem]

@TrolleyDave1971 I think you have misunderstood me. So far my discussion was about a general experience it wasn’t just limited to spirituality or even my experience.
So far I am just trying to grasp what’s acceptable if you are straight away calling my experience mistaken without any knowledge.