@ProYapper8124 Then that person is a bad person. Most people upset about the buzzcut are not that, my feed is full of them crying laughing like normal fandom folks. And I don't know BBarbie, I just went into this thread bc I agreed with some of her points and disagreed with yours.
@ProYapper8124 The recast hims are just stupid people. The other ones are just upset and probably mean that Connor as a character Ilya with a buzzcut looks like an extremist etc.The truth is that this buzzcut does not look like book Ilya or season1 Ilya. So people are upset at that.
2/ for example if an actress playing Rapunzel went to set with bleached frost tips and pixie cut, they would not shrug and say 'welp she is Rapunzel so I guess this is what she looks like now". They would put a wig on her or delay the scenes. It's the same principle.
@ProYapper8124 Then let him film the movie but return as Ilya with curls. Buzzcut is not his decision when he's filming. This man is an actor. Either it's Jacob's (wrong) idea, or an idea from another director who took priority over HR and that's not fair.
@ProYapper8124 People love Ilya as a character and fandom is a place to be safely upset and "pathetic" over things. That's how fandoms work. Me personally, I hate the choice of hair for Ilya but I'm not crying over it all week - but I have empathy for those who do. At least the memes are funny
@ProYapper8124 XD Connor is an actor.His literal job entitles people to his hair.And it's not Connor who got a buzzcut, Connor is filming HR so it's Ilya who got it. Connor is not real Ilya. Connor-real person.Ilya-fictional. I think that is crux of the matter,you don't differentiate these two.
@ProYapper8124 If actor appearance=character appearance there would literally be no need for make up/characterisation/haircuts. If someone plays a monster and I call them monstrous in the film, I'm not insulting the actor, I'm describing the artistic choices.
@ProYapper8124 "Radcliffe in his role in Imperium looks like a skinhead" - description of an artistic haircut choice. "This photo of Radcliffe on the street, looks like a skinhead" - insulting someone's appearance. There is a big difference.
@ProYapper8124 I say that Connor in this haircut for AN ACTING ROLE which the character is Russian looks similar to a hooligan-not insult. If I saw Connor on the street, outside of his roleand with his hair not being a character artistic choice but a PERSONAL one I would never call HIM that.
@ProYapper8124 Connor is the only Ilya for me.The discussion is futile if you can't differentiate between criticizing an artistic choice for the character(haircut) and insulting someone's appearance(face, weight, etc).It's a completely different thing.Connor in a buzzcut is nice.Ilya-not.
@ProYapper8124 I'm describing not Connor and his virtues, I'm describing a HAIRCUT CHOICE. Many Russian fans compare this haircut to obligatory military hair, and Ilya DOES NOT suit military haircut. He as a character grows his hair in spite of his father's wishes. How is pointing that wrong?
@ProYapper8124 ??? How is that an insult? I'm not saying Connor IS, I'm saying that this choice of haircut brings cultural connotations to many people and Ilya with buzzcut LOOKS like one.If I say that Daniel Radcliffe looks like a skinhead in 'Imperium', I'm insulting Daniel? Wtf xD
@ProYapper8124 As long as the discussion remains in fandom spaces and not Connors mailbox, I think being upset at 'losing' our Ilya is all ok. Everyone has their own idea of Ilya. I do feel trepidation that I will not enjoy season 2 as much because I will mourn the curls and that's alright.
@ProYapper8124 I agree,but tbh I haven't seen anyone call Connor that, mostly people discussing how this haircut makes him look like an extremist/aggressive and I do agree.His amazing Slavic accent and buzzcut doesn't suit my Ilya at all, for me it brings up an image of Polish stadiumhooligan.
@ProYapper8124 Also, I'm not letting or forbidding Connor from anything, lol xD I'm just discussing things in fandom spaces, as fandoms often do, having strong opinions is totally normal. We don't know Connor and he doesn't know we exist and talking about hair is literally what fans always did