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The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Prov 18:17
Catholic Christian.
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@ShamelessPopery Wes Huffβs video was a gift, because the response video you did turns out to be some of your finest work. Succinct, clear, and punchy at points. Thank you and well done @ShamelessPopery
By this definition you should condemn the first 300 years of Christianity also. Within the first 100 years, the earliest Christians were celebrating the paschal meal on top of tombs so that the sacrifice of the Eucharist can be linked with the presence of the martyrs whose prayers they believed hovered over the bones and the ashes.
I was concerned with the critiques at first but after looking into it I understand a little better. Itβs less about an outright critique of the whole council, and more about the liberal encroachment on the church at the time, coupled with the way in which its reforms were implemented. Guidance was shoddy or lacking and documents were badly translated. Along with the liberal push it meant that the outcomes were not in line with the original intent of the originating Pope and council fathers. The intent however is sensible and I have great understanding for the churchβ instincts at the time. But I agree, the liberals used it to turn the church into a social justice engine over the unapologetic pillar of truth it should be. Read the work of Fr John Perricone and Dr Peter Kwaniewski if you want to get a better idea or the critiques.
@blessedabsalom Based on William Lane Craigβs βmass hallucinations argumentβ in favour of the resurrection, you either accept Fatima as genuine by the same standard, or inadvertently condemn the resurrection.
I'm a convert and have been mulling this. I want to avoid sharing too many opinions (who am I anyway) so will only say respectfully that if it wasn't for the NO in English, I may not have connected in, in the first place. And my Priest is reverent in the true sense β I was deeply moved by his deep reverential manner in the Mass long before I understood what he was doing. So I have tremendous empathy for the instincts of those in VII who felt that the vernacular could help with evangelisation β I am a fruit of that intent. But I would also support the critiques of the ambiguous and badly translated documents, disastrous implementation and liberal encroachment, that does not seem in line with the intent of John XXIII or the Council fathers. I think it needs to be pushed back on, while trying to retain the aspects that are open to change without succumbing to modernist tendencies or "trad ideology". Ask me again in 10 years π