@AnnaPalindrome@colecolliflower@BrianEntin If she truly woke up from a daze or dream like state like she said to find she had killed her kids, any non psychopathic person would not want to live, much less fight tooth and nail for their freedom and have plans to enter wheel chair marathons.
This is Todd Beamer.
He prayed before leading a group of passengers to overpower hijackers on Flight 93.
He died a Christian, father, husband, and hero.
This was his transcript.
Todd: Hello… Operator… listen to me. I can’t speak very loud. This is an emergency. I’m a passenger on a United flight to San Francisco. Our plane has been hijacked.
Lisa: I understand. Can they see you?
Todd: No. There are three that we know of. They have knives — razor knives, like box cutters. Someone announced from the cockpit there was a bomb. It sounded fake.
Lisa: Your name?
Todd: Todd Beamer. United Flight 93.
They killed one passenger in first class. They forced most of us back. Fourteen of us here. Five flight attendants. The guy with the bomb ordered us to sit on the floor.
Lisa: Are you okay?
Todd: We’re going down… wait. No. We’re leveling off. We changed directions. We’re flying east again.
A guy named Jeremy called his wife. She told him two planes hit the World Trade Center. Lisa, is that true?
Lisa: I have to tell you the truth. It’s very bad. Both towers are gone. A third plane hit the Pentagon. Our country is under attack. I’m afraid your plane may be part of their plan.
Todd: Oh God. Lisa, will you do something for me? Call my wife and my kids. Promise me you’ll call.
Lisa: I promise.
Todd: Our home number is… You have the same name as my wife. Lisa. We’ve been married ten years. She’s pregnant with our third child. Tell her I love her. I’ll always love her. We have two boys — David, he’s 3, and Andrew, he’s 1. Tell them their daddy loves them and he is so proud of them. The baby is due January 12th. I saw an ultrasound. We still don’t know if it’s a girl or a boy.
Lisa: I’ll tell them. I promise, Todd. (Lisa patches in the FBI.)
Agent: Todd, your plane is on a course for Washington. Best guess is the White House or the Capitol.
Todd: I understand. I’ll be back.
Everyone knows this isn’t a normal hijacking. We have decided we will not be pawns in their plot.
Lisa: What are you going to do?
Todd: Four of us are going to rush the one with the bomb. Then the cockpit. A stewardess is getting boiling water. We’ll take them out.
Would you pray with me? They pray the Lord’s Prayer. Then: Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for thou art with me.
God help me. Jesus help me.Are you guys ready? Let’s Roll.
@cleancitybird@EssnerBenjamin@_QueenMeabh You don’t seem aware. As someone who worked in criminal defense, you should know better. That makes it worse, so you should stop embarrassing yourself.
@cleancitybird Horrible application of logic. Faulty reasoning. She obviously knew the wrongness of her actions, as demonstrated by the premeditation and planning used to get Patrick out of the house, and the methodical ordered slaughter of her children - sequenced to prevent panic.
@AutumnRhodess People will only say bullshit like this for a woman. Murder your three children, and the system failed you - it’s not even your fault! NO. She is responsible for her own actions. When men murder their children, other men want them executed. We NEVER eschew their responsibility.
@bloomjpg I do not care one bit about the mental health of a man who would murder his children. Roast him slowly over a bed of coals. Same goes to Lindsay.
Notice how Lindsay Clancy was very tentative and apprehensive in her “suicide attempt” but extremely violent, systematic, methodical, and determined when she strangled her children to death. That’s because she hated the children much more than she hated herself. She was far more determined to kill them. If she showed even half the aggression to herself that she showed them, she wouldn’t be alive right now.
@BrentSpurs@bluejean500@BrianEntin Your definition could be extrapolated and used to make murder convictions virtually impossible. An altered state of mind isnt the issue. Its was she able to tell right from wrong, and she absolutely was.