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@CaseyNewton "To the extent that any of these efforts had an impact on the 2018 elections, it appears to be small" yet Russia spent only 46k on FB ads in 2016 compared to $81 MIL by Hillary and Trump & Russia somehow got Trump elected?!? Tell me how that makes sense. https://t.co/XT3qHLMQiI
@CaseyNewton I know you were just repeating the narrative that the NY Times spun but the influence campaigns that Dems ran in 2016 were not "Russian style"...the US actually pioneered this form of propaganda going back to at least 2011, according to The Guardian: https://t.co/cPg9dadHbX
@NateSilver538 There was actually a 3rd group that formed Bernie's coalition: Independents. In talking about who the strongest Dem candidates are the "experts" (aka corporate media talking heads) consistently neglect to factor Indies into the equation, and the D's could suffer for it in 2020.
@NateSilver538 You're reminding me a bit of Ron Paul these days, Nate, in that half the things you say are spot-on and the other half are bat-sh*t crazy. The idea that millennials supported Bernie because of his personality is squarely in the bat-sh*t category.
@dyqik@NateSilver538 Nate didn’t say the trolls had no influence he just put them in context. Hillary spent $1 mil on fake social media posts & twice as much as Trump on trad media. Trump infamously received way more TV coverage than Hillary. Russian trolls were a drop in the bucket comparatively.
@NateSilver538 More misinformation, Nate! The idea that Bernie doesn't have support from nonwhite voters is a MYTH!!! Harvard-Harris poll: African Americans gave Bernie the highest favorables at 73 percent — vs. 68 percent among Latinos, 62 percent among Asian Americans https://t.co/Tl0e9uM1eu
@BenardeteJ@NateSilver538 Told you the meaning of the monikers. Yes it’s gray but there IS a range as I just explained. Progs aren’t always entirely against free markets but some (Waren, Beto) favor it more broadly than others (Bernie, Tulsi). MANY Dems are pro military...Hillary is very interventionist.
@BenardeteJ@NateSilver538 Can't write a thesis on Twitter, m'friend. Monikers are just short-hand for constrained dialog, that's all, chill your trolling. Generally: pro military pro free market + incrementalism = neolib, the opposite = prog. Biden more neolib, Bernie more prog, Beto in btwn...generally.
@BenardeteJ@NateSilver538 Nothing is “obvious” from one poll, especially one where Sanders is within the margin of error from being #1. Support is always split btwn Neolibs & Progressives on the left, that's what this poll shows. Question that matters: who's most popular nationally...still Bernie I bet.
@NateSilver538 The Dems would be foolish to repeat the mistake of 2016 & ignore what will be most important in 2020: who has national appeal among moderates, conservatives, & independents, not just Dems. That’s the candidate who has the best chance to defeat Trump and that is Bernie’s strength.
@NateSilver538 Also MoveOn’s members have always been split between the progressive left and the neoliberal center right, so I’m not surprised that these results reflect that split.