Mein Sohn bewundert gerade mein volles Haar und meine bombastische hairline aber der kleine hs hat noch keine Ahnung dass dss aus der Türkei kommt und er nicht nur Schulden sondern auch eine Glatze von mir erben wird
The real Helen of Troy would have looked like Mamdani's wife, more or less. Despite all the noise about "accuracy" none of the rw chuds would be happy with this casting either.
wishing a thousand years of bloody diarrhea upon every app/site that made their search bar automatically double as an ai chatbox for some fucking reason
Thinking Mel Gibson has ever once given a shit about historical accuracy is an immediate tell that you’re a poser who doesn’t care about history. Historians have been mocking Alocalypto for almost 20 years, and Braveheart for over 30
Communist Vietnam literally invaded Communist Cambodia to stop the genocide, and the vast majority of the initial records and victim testimonies come from Communist Vietnamese sources
American Comminists are a diffrent breed of stupid
Alles, was Rechte vorgeben sich zu wünschen, haben in der Vergangenheit Linke möglich gemacht. Alles, was Rechte vorgeben zu hassen, haben Rechte herbeigeführt.
Another moron who has no clue about Odyssey, or the Classics, or the Ancient Greek Civilisation in general.
The moron says "Odysseus has absolutely zero regret over sacking Troy. He was PROUD of his accomplishments".
Here is what Odysseus actually does when he hears a song about the sack of Troy. In Homer. In the original Greek, which the moron cannot read in the original text.
Demodocus (8.521-531) has just sung about the fall of Troy; the wooden horse; the destruction Odysseus engineered. This is Odysseus's response: ταῦτ᾽ ἄρ᾽ ἀοιδὸς ἄειδε περικλυτός· αὐτὰρ Ὀδυσσεὺς τήκετο, δάκρυ δ᾽ ἔδευεν ὑπὸ βλεφάροισι παρειάς./"The famous bard sang these things; but Odysseus was melting, and tears wet his cheeks beneath his eyelids".
Melting. τήκετο. The verb Homer uses for snow dissolving on mountains. And then the simile. Homer compares the sacker of Troy to:
ὡς δὲ γυνὴ κλαίῃσι φίλον πόσιν ἀμφιπεσοῦσα, ὅς τε ἑῆς πρόσθεν πόλιος λαῶν τε πέσῃσιν/"As a woman weeps, falling about her dear husband, who has fallen before his city and his people..."
She sees him dying. She throws herself on him and wails. Men behind her beat her back and shoulders with spears and drag her into slavery. Her cheeks waste with the most pitiful grief.
ὣς Ὀδυσεὺς ἐλεεινὸν ὑπ᾽ ὀφρύσι δάκρυον εἶβεν/"So Odysseus shed a pitiful tear beneath his brows".
Homer does not compare the victorious warrior to a triumphant conqueror. He compares him to the primary victim of city-sacking; a woman whose husband is killed and who is beaten into slavery. The word ἐλεεινόν, pitiable, describes the victor's tears. This is not "sorrow over fallen comrades". The song is about the destruction of Troy. The destruction Odysseus caused.
Earlier in the same book (8.84-86), when Demodocus first sings about Troy: πορφύρεον μέγα φᾶρος ἑλὼν χερσὶ στιβαρῇσι κὰκ κεφαλῆς εἴρυσσε, κάλυψε δὲ καλὰ πρόσωπα· αἴδετο γὰρ Φαίηκας ὑπ᾽ ὀφρύσι δάκρυα λείβων
Odysseus pulls his great purple cloak over his head and hides his face. Because he feels αἰδώς; shame. He does this repeatedly. Every time the bard sings, he covers his head and sobs. Every time the bard stops, he wipes his tears.
A man who feels "absolutely zero regret" does not pull his cloak over his face to hide his weeping. Repeatedly.
In the Underworld, Book 11, Odysseus sees Ajax still furious over the contest for Achilles's armour: ὡς δὴ μὴ ὄφελον νικᾶν τοιῷδ᾽ ἐπ᾽ ἀέθλῳ/"Would that I had never won in such a contest".
An explicit expression of regret, in Odysseus's own words, for his winning caused Ajax's death.
Is Odysseus also proud? Yes. At 9.19 he boasts: "I am Odysseus, son of Laertes, known to all men for my wiles, and my fame reaches heaven". At 9.502 he reveals his name to the Cyclops in triumph. Real pride. And Homer frames that pride as a catastrophic error that brings Poseidon's wrath on him for 10 years.
This is the part that monodimensional readers of ancient Greek literature cannot process.
In ancient Greek civilisation, nothing is linear and nothing is absolute. Not in the epics. Not in the tragedies. Not in the comedies. Not even in the philosophy. Every character is multifaceted. Achilles is the greatest warrior and a man who sits weeping in his tent. Hector is the defender of Troy and a man who admits he fights partly from shame, not courage. Antigone is righteous and inflexible to the point of self-destruction.
Odysseus is proud AND he weeps like a captive widow. Homer holds both. In the same poem. In the same book. He opens Book 8 calling Odysseus πτολίπορθος, "sacker of cities" (8.3), and closes it comparing him to the primary victim of city-sacking.
Anyone who reads the Odyssey and sees a man who felt "absolutely zero" about the destruction of Troy has not read the Odyssey. They have projected a fantasy of uncomplicated martial heroism onto a 2,700-year-old poem that is doing something they are not equipped, and capable, to recognise.
Read the text. All of it. In Greek if you can manage it, or use Lattimore's translation, and stop listening to idiots like this moron.
Today, we remember those we lost on this day 15 years ago, murdered by a right-wing extremist in the deadliest terrorist attack on Norwegian soil in peacetime. We must continue to fight hate every day; in words, in thought, and in action. Never forget. Never be silent. ❤️🌹
the concept of elliot page getting a better written role in a nolan movie because he transitioned to the gender nolan writes better roles for is actually killing me
also goes to show just how desperate they are to cling to any sort of cultural relevance cause a white supremacist of 100 years ago would put a gun in his mouth before he considered greeks white